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edeacon
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« on: 19 October 2002, 19:04:00 pm »
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I have registered with an agency and will interview my first maids this weekend. Can anyone give me advice on what questions / topics I should cover during the interview ?

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« Reply #1 on: 19 October 2002, 22:01:00 pm »
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Besides the standard questions about  their experience, what they enjoy doing on their day off etc, I always ask them about any difficult situations they have been in and how they responded. Also ask about their relationship with previous employers to gauge whether their easy to get along with - if they are very critical of prev employers, it's better to steer clear. I also form a strong view based on appearance and dress - if she's wearing nail polish, a tight top, make up or heels I'd think twice.  
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« Reply #2 on: 19 October 2002, 23:45:00 pm »
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If you have children and will leave them in her care you could have her read  a book  to them.  You can also  observe her interaction with them during a short play time.  
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« Reply #3 on: 20 October 2002, 8:01:00 am »
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Assuming this is not her first job as a maid, ask her what the best part of her old job was, and then ask her what the worst part of her last job was. When she says nothing - she liked it all, press her for one thing - no one likes everything about their job, and if she did, she wouldn't be leaving.
Good luck!
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« Reply #4 on: 20 October 2002, 15:56:00 pm »
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If you have children ask what she would do in an emergency and also for minor injurys. You'll be surprised how little they know about general first aid! You can always teach them house work but you can't give them common sense!
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« Reply #5 on: 20 October 2002, 19:08:00 pm »
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You could always send them on a 1st Aid course.  I wouldn't have the first idea about how to save someone in most situtations, so why would I expect my maid to?!
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« Reply #6 on: 21 October 2002, 12:53:00 pm »
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Ask the standard questions and bring your kids a long.

We let our 4 year old have 50% of the say.

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« Reply #7 on: 21 October 2002, 15:48:00 pm »
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Do a search on this board for replies on the topic by "Hailey's Mom".  

Think she's moved on now but I seem to remember that she gave a lot of advice on the subject of maids.

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« Reply #8 on: 21 October 2002, 18:36:00 pm »
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The biggest advice I have on this is NOT to use an agency.  If you want to email me at the_***2002@yahoo.co.uk I'll talk to you off the ***.  I agree - Hailey's mum had great advice - she became a friend of mine - I'm happy to pass on her fountain of knowledge!
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« Reply #9 on: 28 October 2002, 13:02:00 pm »
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Agree with TS- you just can't teach common sense! Sigh. Thought I had chosen the right 'nanny'. Now she wants to quit because she is afraid that my baby 'will cry and cry until she dies', and worries endlessly cos she regurgitates after a feed, and will not take any responsibility for the baby because I didn't take her to the doctor. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my baby. I am sick and tired of reassuring her that the baby is fine and her ignoring my advice.

But how can you detect common sense from just one interview....

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« Reply #10 on: 29 October 2002, 2:43:00 am »
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you cannot  judge all from one interview.

besides, some 'perfect' maids are actresses that do and say what they think you would want to hear - in front of you.

when they are trusted alone with your children (or husbands), that can sometimes be another story.

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« Reply #11 on: 29 October 2002, 12:25:00 pm »
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Recently interviewed about 50 maids and thought I had made the correct decision after so many interviews. My maid and her previous employer sold me a totally different picture. I wanted someone who enjoyed and could cook well. Anyway, to cut a long story short, my maid has no idea how to cook - has never even boiled an egg or cooked mashed potato - pretty basic as far as I'm concerned. Would definitely get them to explain how they cook certain dishes. Fortunately I like my maid and have decided to train her, but must say, it was a shock after thinking I had done my homework properly - one never knows.
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« Reply #12 on: 29 October 2002, 18:22:00 pm »
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All1nson - how is Hailey's Mom? She must have had her baby by now. Any news? She was such a daily participant on this board, and so helpful, I would love to hear that everything went ok with this baby and her move to the US.
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« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2002, 11:58:00 am »
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Before you hire a transfer maid from another expat employer, I would suggest that you read the following message.  This was originally posted last year by a pregnant expat wife who called herself "Frustrated Employer".  The title of her posting was "Would you pay your maid S$800 per month? "
                                     
1 August, 2001

I have just had a bad experience with a Filipino maid and thought I'd share this with all of you. I welcome all of your suggestions and advice about hiring maids in Singapore.

My husband & I hired Mary from an American family who gave her a glowing reference.  They told us that the maid was:- 1) a great cook 2) fabulous with their 2 kids (aged 1 & 6 yrs) 3) a terrific housekeeper and 4) a devout Christian who was always honest and never gave them any trouble. We interviewed this maid 3 times before deciding to hire her. My husband was impressed with Mary because he saw how the employer's baby really bonded with her at the interview. (We actually went to her previous employer's house to interview her the second time round). The American employer also told us that the reason why they were helping Mary to get a new job was because they were getting transferred to Tokyo and couldn't take her with them.

Well, Mary came to work for my husband & I on 26 May, 2001. During the first few days with us, she was extremely polite and sweet and gave us the impression that she would be a great maid. At that time, I was 6 months pregnant and was hoping to find someone who was good with babies to help me out so that I could go back to work at the end of this year. After a few days, Mary started to ask for Friday nights off to go to prayer meetings, Saturday afternoons off so that she could go to the internet cafe in Orchard Road to send emails to her sons in the Philippines and weekday afternoons off to do her shopping and bum around Orchard Rd.

Mary thought that we would be extremely lenient employers since we currently don't
have any kids and both work full-time during the day. She assumed that she would have a really cushy job working for us over the next few months before the baby arrives and that she could do whatever she wanted whilst we were at work. We ended up paying her S$600.00 per month plus a S$200.00 food allowance because that was what her previous employer paid her. We didn't want to exploit her or underpay her and genuinely thought that if we paid her a high salary she would treat us well and do a good job around the house. I also kept thinking of the old saying "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys!."

We really thought that Mary would work out because she had 15 years' experience
working as a maid in Hong Kong & Singapore, had a lot of experience looking after
babies and had fantastic references from 5 expat employers. Little did we know how
much trouble she would cause us. During the past 2 months, she has asked for nearly every weekend off, she has stolen some of my nice China dinner sets, and has spent more time chatting to her friends on her mobile phone than my husband & I put
together. On average, she receives at least 5 phone calls from her friends every evening whilst she is cooking dinner for us.

On top of that, her cooking is atrocious, her standard of cleanliness and hygiene is way below what we expected and she is quite lazy around the house. Every morning, she gets up and reads her bible and Christian books in the kitchen. She makes herself breakfast and then waits for me to go to work. I gave her a statement of duties & responsibilities when we first hired her but she never does what she's been asked to do. She vacuums and mops the floor when it suits her, doesn't clean and rinse the bathrooms properly and often overcooks or burns our food. She has also destroyed a few of my nice clothes by handwashing or machine washing them when the label says "dryclean only".

She wanted us to pay her a high salary but wasn't willing to do a good job around the house. Actually, she has the whole afternoon off on weekdays since we don't have any kids or pets for her to look after. On top of that, she complains about having to cook us dinner at 8.00 pm at night and not being able to go to sleep until 10.00 pm. She often  compares us to her previous employer who allowed her to go to bed by 8.30 pm.

I have sat down with our maid on several occasions and told her that we expect her to improve her attitude and work standard. Last Saturday, she complained to me that I was the first employer in 15 years to give her negative feedback about her work. I told her that her cooking and house cleaning were way below my expectations. She then said that my expectations were too high and that "only God should have high
expectations". I then told her that if she wasn't willing to improve her work, I would ask her to leave. Mary then burst into tears and told me that I was being mean to her. She asked me not to cancel her work permit because she needed to support her family in the Philippines. I told her that we were not mean or exploitative employers that we would allow her to find another job. I gave her a few days off from work and suggested that she go and talk to a few employment agencies about getting a new job. She then told me that she didn't want to use an employment agency because she didn't want to pay them a fee. Mary decided to go through her network of Church friends to find a new job.

Well, last night, Mary came home and told me that she has been offered a job in Canada by the mother of a Canadian guy in Singapore who happens to be a friend of one of her Christian friends. I told her that was great and that she would need to get a visa to go to Canada ASAP to enable me to hire a new maid myself. I asked her to give me her passport and work permit so that I could get an employment agency to do all of the paperwork and transfer another maid over to me. Mary was very reluctant to hand over her passport to me and ended up bursting into tears. She then called the Canadian son of her new employer and asked him to tell me that I had no right to ask her for her passport. I hardly every lose my temper but this time round, I really blew my top when I heard this young man telling me off and saying that I had no right to ask for my maid's passport. I thought "Who the hell is this guy and why is he involved in my affairs?"

I told Mary that I would drive her down to the Canadian embassy this morning and try and sort out her visa to Canada for her. She started crying again and told me that she didn't want me to go with her to the embassy. I then asked her why not and what she was hiding from me. Mary told me that her church minister and the young Canadian man were going to meet her at the embassy and help her to get her visa to Canada. I then told her that as her employer, I had every right to take her down to the embassy and that I was trying to help her not give her a hard time. I also told Mary that I would need her to go with me to the employment agency to hand over her passport, work permit & plane ticket to Canada so that they could cancel her work permit and advise the  Immigration Department that she was going to work in Canada. At the same time, they would do the paperwork to transfer my new maid across to me.

Mary kept bursting into tears and getting emotional in the kitchen. She also made up a story about not having her passport and giving it to her church minister to look after. I ended up losing my temper with her because I knew she was lying. I rang her pastor and asked him if he had her passport. He told me that he didn't have it and that Mary was afraid that if she gave me her passport, I would cancel her work permit. I told her  that I needed to cancel her work permit in order for her to leave the country to go to work in Canada and in order for my new maid to transfer over to work for me.

This whole incident has caused me a lot of stress. I am now 8 months pregnant and
really don't need any maid problems. I ended up having to take a day off work today to sort out these maid issues.

If Mary was your maid, what would you have done? Would you have paid her $800.00
per month and allowed her to take Friday nights off to go to Church meetings as well as give her Sundays and public holidays off?

Would you have fired her earlier on?

Your comments would be appreciated.

                                                                                                       

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« Reply #14 on: 02 November 2002, 4:58:00 am »
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At 8 months pregnant you sound extremely level headed, and possibly a little vulnerable... people can/do change over time, it sounds like your maid has...

sometimes in life it's time to stop being "nice" and put yourself & your families interests first... It may be worth getting your husband involved... I would do the right thing and give her the legally required notice. Politely see her off your property = and out of your lives...

This will cause you other problems, but after reading your story, I would cut my losses and move on....
good luck

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