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« on: 13 May 2002, 19:55:00 pm »

Aids fear as Bush blocks sex lessons

US undermines global declaration

Gaby Hinsliff, chief political correspondent
Sunday May 5, 2002
The Observer

President George W. Bush is blocking an international drive to provide teenage sex education because of his belief in chastity before marriage. Health experts say this could fatally undermine the battle against Aids.
Bush has poured millions of dollars into 'true love waits'-style programmes in America, which teach that abstinence out of wedlock is the best way to avoid underage pregnancy.

Now he has triggered a row with British and other European Union governments by refusing to sign a United Nations declaration on children's rights - designed to set funding priorities across the Third World - unless pledges on sexual health services are scrapped.

Experts argue that inflicting such views on Aids-stricken nations could have a catastrophic impact on millions of young people, threatening funding for life-saving drives to encourage condom use and safe abortions.

Clare Short's Department for International Development, alongside other EU governments, is insisting there should be no retreat on contraception - setting the stage for a clash at this week's UN summit on children's rights.

The Bush delegation objects on moral grounds to a pledge to guarantee 'reproductive and mental health services' for under-18s and to a pledge to 'protect the right of adolescents to sex education and avoiding unwanted/ early pregnancies'.

Backed by the Vatican, it is understood to have been pushing for guarantees that UN-funded sex education programmes will include commitments to preach chastity outside marriage.

That would stop Third World teachers discussing contraception honestly, campaigners say, with fatal consequences. Every minute, five people under 25 are infected with HIV worldwide, while 10 teenage girls undergo an unsafe abortion.

It's just a scandal,' said Françoise Girard of the International Women's Health Coalition. 'In today's world it is really unconscionable that the US should be objecting to a discussion of a full range of topics.' A similar impasse over the morning-after pill at a UN summit on women's health two years ago - triggered by the Vatican - prompted Short to accuse the Catholic Church of being 'morally destructive' and in an 'unholy alliance with reactionary forces'.

Talks to broker a deal resume tomorrow, but the Bush administration, supported by the Vatican and Islamic countries, is sticking to its guns. Charities fear the UN may be tempted to water down its policy to keep one of its biggest paymasters on board.

The aggressively Christian Bush administration has taken a harder moral line than the Clinton regime, which helped broker international agreement on contraception. Since coming to power, Bush has introduced laws cutting back on the use of the morning-after pill in the US and halted funding for international charities that give advice on abortion.

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« Reply #1 on: 13 May 2002, 20:06:00 pm »

I had to post this when I read it. I wanted to pick up my computer and throw it at the nearest thing that reminded me of Bush.  

How pathetic is this – seriously some very good people work very hard unappreciative jobs to save other peoples lives - but that of course is no good according the Righteous GWB if the saved lose their souls to Satan.  

One Vote for George as the world’s worst most destructive leader.  (ok you may say Suddam is worse - Jiang oversees torture and an illegal occupation in Tibet, Chirac props up extremist to null the voice of the left and secure his Presidency, Gerhard Schroeder just walks around looking lame juggling a million different interests, Gaddaffi probably helps terrorists, Sharon cracks down severely on Palestinians, Arafat condones terrorism...But I would say at least these guys know they're a**holes – Bush still thinks he is the righteous saviour.  Of course as a saviour he has two great supporters, one of who shares his moral outrage at anything deemed slightly outside a 1950’s sexual hierarchy (Johnnie Howard from Aus) and of course Blair – no mention of Bush can be made without Blair.

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« Reply #2 on: 13 May 2002, 21:39:00 pm »

Welcome to the Bible Belt...

"A new commandment I give to you, That ye love one another; unless ye irritate each other's moral sensibilites, then all bets are off."

I'm pretty sure JC didn't put it quite like that, but you'd be surprised hearing the garbage that some of these bible-belters spew...

The most interesting thing is that Christ hardly had a word to say about sexuality... although he was notable in associating with, and showing compassion towards, all manner of societal rejects, including prostitutes and the rest.

All the "sex is bad/absentance is good" stuff came from Paul, who'd presumably been exposed to just a little too much Greek-mystery-cult philosophy during his formative years as a Roman-educated graduate. He's notable as an Apostle in that he had a lot to say, but never actually met JC.

What Would Jesus Do? He wouldn't make a cruel dogma-based moral stance that would inflict ignorance, disease and death on millions of young people...

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« Reply #3 on: 13 May 2002, 23:28:00 pm »

Bush isn't ``inflicting'' disease on anyone. He's withholding funds for a program because of conflicts with moral principles. Should the government fund Louis Farrakhan because he helps the poor, despite his segregationist principles? Should Western countries still pay their UN dues even though UN workers trade grain for sex with refugees? Should the EU and Canada plow money into Hamas and Hezbollah because they run charitable organizations?

For what it's worth, though, I don't agree with Bush on this one.

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« Reply #4 on: 14 May 2002, 6:56:00 am »

OK, hypothetical. Supposing you are on a fishing boat with a stranger. There's only the two of you there at sea. It is calm. The stranger falls into the sea through his own foolishness. You are stood watching next to the life preserver. It becomes quickly clear that the stranger can neither swim nor climb out. After quite a bit of yelling and splashing, the stranger drowns, due to a set of circumstances that was initiated by their own foolishness.

Does your failure to throw the life preserver constitute an "infliction" of drowning?

US law recognizes that the absence of an action may indeed be a crime in certain circumstances. This would be one of them.

Most significantly, this stance by Bush represents a tremendous failure of democracy. When Bush is actually heard talking without his speechwriters and handlers there is a strong suggestion that he is unaware of much of what a foreign policy maker should be aware of. So we see, yet again, an example whereby Bush acts in the best interest of a very narrow (but wealthy) lobby, in apparent ignorance of any consequences but the consolidation of his power base, and most importantly, against the will of The People as would be represented by a referendum on the issue.

Government Of the People, By The President, For The-Vested-Interests-Who-Paid-His-Way.

 

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« Reply #5 on: 14 May 2002, 15:00:00 pm »

It's not quite a zero-sum game though, is it? The US may not be throwing the life preserver you have personally selected, but it is throwing another, or even several considering the amount of foreign aid given by the US government and its people via charitable organizations. And this doesn't include the fact that much of the leading research and treatments for AIDS comes from the US.

And as for not being democratic, will you also propose that European countries bring back the death penalty because a majority of citizens desires it?

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« Reply #6 on: 14 May 2002, 16:49:00 pm »

Bruno: yes, a lot of treatment and medicine for AIDS comes from the US (and makes the industry a lot of money in the process).... yet they oppose measures that may prevent the spread of that same disease... does this ring a bell?

to go with Dr. O's posts (which i feel are spot on): a man is drowning, but instead of throwing him a life preserver, i start throwing fire extinguishers, aspirin and a parachute saying "look at all the help i'm giving here!"

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« Reply #7 on: 14 May 2002, 17:18:00 pm »

There would be no AIDS drugs at all if the profit motive was removed. And the US isn't opposing the program -- they just refuse to fund it. I don't necessarily agree, but it's bordering on the usual anti-US hysteria to suggest the US is somehow ``inflicting'' AIDS or ``opposing'' treatments.
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« Reply #8 on: 14 May 2002, 17:26:00 pm »

i'm not saying that profit is bad... not at all: you are correct in saying that if there was no profit to be made no new medicines or products in general would be developed.

nor am i accusing the US of inflicting AIDS, but i do feel that the Administration is, in this way, opposing or at least not stimulating prevention.

(just for your info: i'm a supporter of the US, just not of the current Administration/Head Honcho)

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« Reply #9 on: 16 May 2002, 17:56:00 pm »

I am not anti US either - and i dont believe you can blame every US leader for all the misery around the world - you cant really blame Clinton for Rwanda - it was just too complicated and messy to get involved in - it is a difficult position however what Bush is doing to the world is nothing short of criminal.  


I like this article by PHILIP S GOLUB

Since the end of the Vietnam war, the American right has dreamed of restoring the country's imperial might. In addition to implementing neo-liberal economic and social policies, the conservative [counter] revolution of the 1980s sought to revitalise wounded patriotism, restore United States military glory and reinstate the executive branch's autonomy, which had been mostly ceded to the legislature and judiciary after the fall of Saigon and Watergate. The US, with its relatively weak federal government, is paradoxical: when vociferous critics of government get power, they try to entrench governmental prerogatives, most notably the right to wage war.

During his two terms in office (1980-88), Ronald Reagan, that famous champion of smaller government, presided over the largest peacetime military expansion in US history and a resurgence in clandestine CIA operations (1). Reagan's successor, George Bush (1989-93), although skilled on the global stage, was a sorry figure at home. Bush pursued Reagan's path, remobilising US national security in the aftermath of the cold war. Yet both Reagan and Bush failed to see policies through to their logical conclusion.

Once thought to be fated to political mediocrity and political impotence, George Bush Jnr seeks vastly expanded executive power, centred on US national security; this goal is fast becoming a reality. In the light of the events of 11 September and the war in Afghanistan – the US's third hi-tech military victory in 10 years – the former Texas governor now styles himself as an American Caesar, which neither Reagan nor Bush Snr accomplished. The Washington Post wrote that the 11 September attacks and the war in Afghanistan had considerably accelerated the dynamic of reinforced presidential powers sought by the Bush administration; the president now enjoyed a status of domination outstripping that of all post-Watergate presidents, even rivalling that of Franklin D Roosevelt (2).

"Domination" is a fitting term. Indeed, every war has both a foreign and a domestic agenda; Aristotle reminds us that a tyrant declares war "to deny his subjects leisure and to impose on them the constant need for a leader" (3).

George Bush Jnr is no tyrant, merely the fluky winner of a bitterly contested election. He did not initiate the present military hostilities. But the war against terrorism, which Bush has described as an "enduring" one, has enabled him to reassert American might and consolidate his personal political power. Bush is displaying US military and technological supremacy abroad while underscoring – as his father and Bill Clinton did in Iraq – the lasting value of force in the post-cold war period. As a result, strategic equations are being rewritten globally.

Domestically, the war has prompted the revival of the National Security State (4), permitting Bush to reassert his authority and justify the marginalisation of the legislature and judiciary. To demolish the semi-authoritarian state, Bush is building a strong executive, presenting a unified front while showing interventionist and go-it-alone tendencies.


A parallel judicial system
In a spirit of wilful submissiveness, the US Senate (controlled by the Democrats) and House of Representatives passed the USA Patriot Act in late September, relinquishing considerable control (5). The act grants the executive branch extraordinary powers, including the secret and indefinite detention of "aliens" (non-citizens) whose status is deemed "irregular". An executive order on 13 November created exceptional military tribunals. More than 1,200 people arrested after 11 September were still in custody in December, yet no one knows who they are or what crimes they are accused of (6).

The detainees and their families have no access to the evidence that will be used against them. Instituted without input from either Congress or the Supreme Court, the exceptional military tribunals have the authority to impose prison sentences, pass judgment and execute those found guilty. "Terrorists" and "war criminals" will be identified as such by executive power alone, based on secret testimony and evidence. Secrecy will also apply to the meeting places, proceedings, charges, deliberations, judgments and composition. Unlike regular military tribunals, these defendants enjoy no right of appeal, even when they face death.

According to the New York Times, such outrageous assaults on the US rule of law, which in theory applies equally to all those within its jurisdiction, are tantamount to "creating a parallel judicial system" (7). US citizens, including terrorists such as Timothy McVeigh, the perpetrator of the 1996 Oklahoma City bombing, will continue to appear before the regular civil courts. The exceptional military tribunals are reserved for foreign nationals, whether resident in the US or not. The executive is establishing a paralegal institution with wide-ranging powers of investigation and intervention, operating within the existing US legal framework but exempt from the rule of law. The Pentagon will be prosecuting the war, assigning guilt and dispensing justice.

The executive is substantially expanding its intervention in US public life, too. By eliminating the Supreme Court's function as final arbiter and relegating Congress to political impotence, Bush is questioning the separation of powers, a cornerstone of US democracy.

This authoritarian shift is virtually unprecedented in recent US history. Even at the depths of the cold war, the US executive did not stoop to such sweeping measures, although it did resort to witch-hunts, censorship and blacklists. The civil rights movement suffered violent repression against governmental secrecy and mendacity; the FBI's power grew enormously; and illegal operations, both foreign and domestic, were undertaken. But the conflicts in Korea and Vietnam – "limited wars" – never gave rise to the creation of a parallel judicial system controlled by the president and national security. According to the right-wing libertarian editorialist William Safire – usually an enthusiastic Republican supporter – these recent actions amount to "a seizure of dictatorial power" (Cool. The essayist and researcher Chalmers Johnson has reached a similar conclusion: we are in the midst of "a latent military coup d'état, perhaps an irreversible one, which, like the former GDR [German Democratic Republic] will transform the country into a nation of informers in which only white Mormons will be safe" (9).


The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century
Although Johnson may overstate the case, it does seem evident that Bush's maximum-security state is in conflict with US political traditions; it will only achieve institutional status if the war drags on. That is the implicit meaning of the unvarying message relayed by Bush's imperial presidency, according to which the events of 11 September constituted the Pearl Harbor of the 21st century, the beginning of global warfare. Bush's worldwide fight against terrorism is thus unencumbered by geography or time constraints.

War unencumbered by geography: once the military campaign in Afghanistan is over, the war's "second phase" may commence. This phase has been in the offing since late September and may focus initially on clandestine terrorist networks in the Philippines, Nepal and Colombia (see article by Janette Habel). US special agents are already at work in the Philippines, where they draw on their anti-insurrectional expertise; they will soon arrive in Somalia. A Somali-US agreement granting the US access to the port of Berbera (on the Gulf of Aden) is due to be signed soon. The third phase will involve operations against an even more dangerous foe, Iraq.

War unencumbered by time constraints: the US administration has continuously reiterated that the fight will be long – perhaps endless. Once Osama bin Laden has been eliminated, the focus will shift to al-Qaida's worldwide networks. But since treating symptoms alone has never cured an illness, al-Qaida's members will eventually be replaced by new recruits. If some scenarios prove correct, the war could drag on for 50 years, or "well beyond our lifetimes", in the words of Vice-President Dick Cheney, since 11 September in a secret bunker near Washington DC. As was the case during the 40-year cold war, all the resources of governmental power will be brought to bear.

This coherent and unvarying message is designed more for the ears of the US public than for world opinion. The goal is to bring about and legitimise a permanent mobilisation of the people behind their president. For now, Bush's leadership is uncontested; once the visible war in Afghanistan is over, he may have to face unhappy voters dealing with worsening economic circumstances.

Governmental intervention in the economy – which certain naïve observers have seen as "a return to politics", finally freed from globalisation's constraints – have so far exclusively benefited large corporations and the military-industrial complex, the two traditional pillars of Republican presidencies. The US government has spent tens of billions of dollars on direct and indirect aid: $15bn in direct aid for the airlines, $25bn in indirect aid for businesses, which have been granted retroactive tax relief, and $20bn in direct transfers to the Pentagon, whose budget now stands at $329bn.

But no relief has been offered to working people or the growing numbers of the unemployed, who currently represent 5.6% of the working population. According to Dick Armey, the Republican House majority leader, payments to the unemployed "would not be in keeping with the American spirit". Given the effects of the recession, many Americans will be joining the ranks of the jobless in the run-up to the 2002 Congressional elections and the 2004 presidential election.

Without a state of constant mobilisation, which only fear can sustain, Bush will have difficulty staying the course. Perhaps he won the war in Afghanistan too quickly. The US could soon grow weary of Bush's new imperial presidency.

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« Reply #10 on: 16 May 2002, 18:44:00 pm »

This article falls flat on its face in the first paragraph. The American Right can hardly be imperialist when it's dominated by isolationists, who want to limit US involvement overseas, not expand it. And the legislature and judiciary marginalized? Perhaps you didn't notice that Bush's high-profile pick for court justice Pickering was recently rejected and that the vaunted drilling for oil in the Arctic was vetoed in the Senate. And for someone who wants to be Caesar, Bush has a funny way of doing so: reducing government control over the economy, arming the people, appointing judges with strict interpretations of the constitution, and cutting taxes so that individuals have more control over their money than he does.

And as for the poor American worker, well, even the those in the poorest Us states such as Mississippi now have more disposable earnings than the average Swede. And the average African-American, who didn't even have the vote several decades ago, now has more wealth than the average Canadian.

Basically, whenever I see so-called analysis littered with adjectives my bull**** antennae start to quiver. Show, don't tell is the creed of a good journalist.

The world's changing, Joseph. The worker/owner, colonizer/colonized, right wing/left wing dynamics rarely apply any more, if they ever did. I used to buy this pap myself thanks to years of lousy education in my country's finest institutions. Eventually, I just couldn't ignore the facts any longer.


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« Reply #11 on: 17 May 2002, 12:24:00 pm »

Bruno obviously I dont just fall into line with agreeing or disagreeing with the article - I just posted it.  I liked reading the blanket statements that it made and though some of them were a tad off centre some are not.  I do love the fact that Bush lost the bill to exploit alaska - it was a real slap in the face and a demonstration of democracy at work.  

Frankly I dislike Bush Jnr intensly - the fact that he is President says bad things about America. The article has flaws but some of what it says has merit.  I understand much of the dynamic of American politics and acknowledge that to talk of the Right as an entity in itself is not taking into account political realities - but the current Hawks helping formulate policy in the whitehouse are not neo isolationists.

There are some very distressing trends coming from the Whitehouse and Bush is not capable of doing the job he is doing.  If he was a CEO you could fire him unfortunately the people of the US have to wait to 2004 to do that and they well - like his Daddy Bush is a one term man.

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« Reply #12 on: 17 May 2002, 16:16:00 pm »

Hmm, last time I looked Bush was enjoying massive popular support for his policies. Even relations with China and Russia (new nuke agreement and invite to Putin to join missile shield) are going swimmingly. And with Al Gore STILL the Democrats frontrunner I wouldn't put money on your predictions.

Apart from  reactionary measures on the environmental front, which are inevitably moderated by Congress, I'm not sure if ``intense dislike'' for Bush is deserved. It's usually a mistake to personalize one's politics.

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« Reply #13 on: 17 May 2002, 17:20:00 pm »

Bruno, good points, and I'll conceed them.

But lordy lord, that guy sucks....!  

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« Reply #14 on: 17 May 2002, 18:25:00 pm »

I also remember a Bush having over 90% approval during the Gulf war however that didnt mean anything in 92 election.  I dont believe Bush will win.  Bruno that is a very brief selective over view of current Sino/Russian/US relations. NMD is still a hot topic and will not go away despite the latest offer of arms reductions. Relations with China are coincidently better because Bush and Jiang operate in the same moral vaccume - however at least Jiang got to his position through skilled political manoeuvring.  Bush is where he is because he rigged an election result.

I agree Gore is not a skilled political operator either but come 2004 I believe teh Democrats would be hard pressed to lose if they put a decent candidate.  I dislike Bush because he represents the worst a politican can be the US - he doesnt care about the environment, his interest rest solely with big business and in spite of his calls about the poor I cannot believe he actually gives a toss      

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