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Diamante

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« Reply #15 on: 28 February 2002, 23:25:00 pm »

30 to 40 years ago, it was a well accepted practice by Asian parents to smack, slap and/or cane their children for misdemeanors ranging from mild pranks to serious misbehaviour. No one batted an eyelid then.
I grew up getting my fair share of cane marks on my legs and arms for telling lies, failing my exams, staying out too late, quarreling with my siblings, etc.
I like many others of my generation habour no resentment towards our parents, knowing they are disciplining us. We learn the word 'SHAME' as it was really really shameful to have others know we did wrong and thus were punished. Our parents had no qualms telling all and sundry about our latest capers and boy oh boy, having other adults chiding us on top of our parents' scoldings was more than enough reason to stay home without being officially grounded.
We had to face the wrath of our parents too when teachers complained. Double trouble all right. How did we turn out? We did not turn to drugs for sure. Unlike the kids of today who turn to drugs for every little reason - lack of communication with parents, disharmony at home, parents too strict or too lax....whatever. The laws today calls parental disciplining by caning, child abuse. Look at our kids. They don't know what the word 'SHAME' is at all! Scold them and they'll run away. Take away their privileges and they rebel by refusing to study and not going to school.
There are of course, children who are obedient and respectful with parental guidance but more often than not, the reverse is more prevalent. As parents, we can try all the tricks in the tomes of books on 'Bringing Up Difficult Children' yet we fail to incalcate the values we want them to have. Why is that so? Simple. Society deplores the manhandling of children by parents and as a result, when our children do wrong when they grow up gets manhandled by the law enforcers. Now isn't that ironic!

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« Reply #16 on: 01 March 2002, 10:11:00 am »


Why is everyone confusing discipline and punishment with spanking? There is a difference.  you can discipline a child without caning them. If you have to resort to caning for them to behave, then indeed you have not disciplined your child at all!
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« Reply #17 on: 04 March 2002, 13:27:00 pm »

by chance I saw a show on this topic last week..I think it was Ricki Lake

it made my blood boil because
spanking does not equal discipline
spanking is punishment
spanking is also about Anger

I think that you should bear in mind that whilst there are those who were spanked and do spank...there are many other who are totally against spanking because they have have been abused  

One of the other posters here decribed the Chinese notion of "shame"...very interesting as I can relate completely to that!That is how my Chinese father used to belittle us as children...as an adult I attribute most of his lack of parenting skill to the abuse he endured from his father as a child, and to a lack of parenting education.But he can't be excused...I just wish there had been a Lucky around to intervene in my life

Spanking can be a very polite way to describe the abuse I endured as a child. Yes it taught me fear, I'm not sure about respect though...the word hate comes to mind.And now the thought of striking my child makes me ill

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« Reply #18 on: 04 March 2002, 23:46:00 pm »

My own personal experience has been that no one spanks their children to discipline them. They spank them because they are angry. Has any one (who has ever spanked their kid) done it when they were in an absolutely peaceful state of mind? What I mean is, you see your kid doing something inappropriate, something that needs discplining. What do you do?
a) If you're having a great day, you smile sweetly and say: dont do that sweetie, etc etc.

b) I've seen some parents even ignore bad behaviour, if it doesnt affect what they are doing at the moment (busy chatting animatedly with a friend, etc)

c) If you're in a harrassed mood, or they get in your way, you spank and yell.

d) Has any one ever seen this scenario:
The child misbehaves and a parent (who is not angry) explains to the child that what he's done is wrong and therefore he has to be spanked, so that he knows that such behaviour is unacceptable.

I have never seen this happen.

So spanking is essentially a release mechanism for the parent. It has nothing to do with discplining.

Has any one ever seen a parent spank a grown up offspring to point out the error of their ways? Why not? Because they are big enough to hit back, I guess.

My advice to spankers. Pick someone your own age.

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« Reply #19 on: 02 April 2002, 22:29:00 pm »

I have to agree with Queen's last statement. It's perfectly allright for a husband (or male partner) to spank his wife (or female partner), and vice versa (however you like your vice is fine with me). And of course, if you're a same-gender couple, then spanking's ok too. Just keep your hands off the kids.
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