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Here is a truth we can all agree on

There can't be real friendship between India and Pakistan until two old, angry wounds are healed

Kamila Shamsie
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Thursday January 3, 2002

A decade ago, more than 50 of my 96 classmates and I left Karachi to attend university in the US and UK. We didn't
give much thought to the fact that many of us would be meeting Indians for the first time in our lives. It's hard now to find anyone among those 50-odd Pakistanis who
didn't make at least one Indian friend. But what we all discovered was this: we might agree with our friends from across the border on everything else - our embarrassed
attachment to 80s music; our despair at the floundering fortunes of the West Indian cricket team; our inability to eat Uncle Ben's rice without thinking weepily of basmati; our positions on capital punishment, gay rights, abortion, and gun control - but we could not agree, not
one whit, on the two interrelated wounds of Indo-Pak relations: partition and Kashmir.

There are worse things, I suppose, than discovering at 18 that, no matter how many books you read and analytical skills you acquire, your truths will never be objective.

It would be nice to say that, after a decade of talk, those Indo-Pak friendships have resulted in a shifting of positions which can serve as an example to the politicians of our two countries. Perhaps this is true in one or two cases. But, largely, we just learned to stop talking about certain things to each other, and accepted that we had grown up with two different narratives about
the same events.

If the "two nations, two narratives" issue only centred on the creation of Pakistan 55 years ago, I expect we could learn to live with our differences. But as long as the situation in Kashmir remains unresolved we will continue to see border tensions and doomsday predictions and radically differing interpretations arising from a basic set of facts.

The basic set of facts we are faced with is this: on December 13 there was a failed attack on the Indian parliament, and the attackers were killed along with several Indian security personnel.


One narrative surrounding these basic facts goes like this: soon after Israel showed how easy it is to milk the "no distinction between terrorists and those who harbour
them" line, gunmen miraculously got through security checks, in a time of heightened alerts, and attempted to destroy the Indian parliament. In a further miracle, none of the ministers were hurt and the terrorists were killed. The Indian government refused to show the faces of the terrorists to reporters, insisted that the terrorists were part of two groups fighting for the liberation of Kashmir (though that is not quite how the Indians phrased it), and that the attack was planned in training camps in Pakistan and involved the collusion of
Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI. Pakistan offered a joint inquiry into the affair, and India refused.


The other narrative, in which I'm not as well-versed, follows these lines: Pakistan decided to take advantage of its newly warmed friendship with the world's superpower by launching yet another in a long series of attacks on India. Pakistan-sponsored terrorist groups attempted to bring the Indian government to its knees by
blowing up the Indian parliament. The plan was foiled and the terrorists were killed. If the war against terrorism
is to be a global war then surely India must have the right to attack Pakistan. But the US cautioned restraint, and Pakistan, in a brazenly cheeky move, insisted that it
be part of the investigation into the attack.

Or, here is the condensed version of the two narratives, which can stand in for the two narratives during any conflict between India and Pakistan.

Narrative one: India always lies.

Narrative two: Pakistan always lies.

But there is an important third narrative. In the first days after President Musharraf came to power in Pakistan more than two years ago, he repeatedly expressed his
admiration for the aggressively secular Kemal Ataturk. And then, abruptly, he went silent. It was widely believed that Musharraf was warned against the perils of
taking on the hardline religious groups. But in a post-September 11 Pakistan the extremists have been dealt a severe blow due to their inability to drum up significant support for their anti-government rallies,
and the president has been speaking openly about the need to combat those who have been holding hostage a nation which is essentially moderate.

Pakistan's best chance to move against the extremists is now. But it's one thing for Musharraf to root out terrorists; it's quite another for him to appear to do so at the behest of India. In government circles, it is being said that Musharraf is furious about the attacks on the parliament building, and - more importantly - that
India's belligerent demands that he arrest militants are actually slowing down the crackdown on extremists. Perhaps this is the narrative to which more Indians should be paying attention.

For a moment I thought I could end this column on that previous line. But to do so would be to leave out the most important narrative here: that of the 70,000 and
more (every week, more) who have died since 1990 in the struggle for Kashmir's future. When Indo-Pak narratives clash, the fallout is almost always in Kashmir. India insists there is no genuine struggle for self-determination and that the uprising in Kashmir is Pakistan-sponsored. Pakistan insists it offers only moral support to the Kashmiri struggle.

India lies.

Pakistan lies.

But here is a truth we can all agree on: a solution to the Kashmir dispute must be found so that the phrase "threat of nuclear war" can be consigned to the history
books and the next generation of Pakistanis and Indians does not become so accustomed to such a phrase that, in the midst of the massive build-up of troops along the
border, it continues to live its life as though nothing out of the ordinary is going on. (I don't know about the major cities of India, but in Karachi New Year was a wildly celebratory affair, and not just among groups who are associated with fiddling during fires.)

And here is another, no less important truth: a solution must be found for the sake of the Kashmiris who have waited far too long already to approve a joint narrative
of peace.


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« Reply #1 on: 11 January 2002, 17:20:00 pm »

India-Pakistan; Israel-Palestine; tribes in Africa, yes, these peoples share much and have more in common than not, but still they may never get over their boundary differences and the ways in which they discriminate against each other.  

However, Christians or the West v. Muslims, I would not put in the same category.  These peoples may have many differences, but I believe they can get along quite well.  The people in America do not dislike or hate muslims, not do muslims in the East dislike Americans.  Rather, it is the vocal (in more ways than one) minorities at the radical fringes causing the trouble.


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« Reply #2 on: 06 February 2002, 0:48:00 am »

Many such issues, which are seen as dividing the people, are usually aggravated up by politicians, who do not want a real solution but want to exploit the situation for their benefit, personal or public. By and large, the people on the ground don't want war, they just want life to go on peacefully, profitably and enjoyably.

An obvious solution for Kashmir would be for both countries to let go and have a referendum in the state. But of course that would result in a vote for azaadi (independence), and both sides want to hold on to the land.

I often wonder, if Partition had not been effected, would the sub-continent have been one larger, stronger country? We speak the same language, eat the same food, like the same music... the border is a political one. What is sad is that children are growing up hating the "other side" without knowing why, what it's all about. It's frightening. My teenage nephew was web-chatting with a South Asian boy his age, and when he discovered that the boy was from Pakistan, he said something unprintable and broke the connection. I was angry and upset, and tried to tell him that before he knew the other boy's nationality, they had been on the same wavelength. Totally irrational hate is being bred and it's going to lead to so much misery.

For reading interest, here's something:
The Washington Post
Sunday, December 30, 2001
Page B04 OP-ED

How Islam Lost Its Way
Yesterday's Achievements Were Golden; Today, Reason Has Been Eclipsed

By Pervez Amir Ali Hoodbhoy
Pervez Hoodbhoy is a professor of nuclear and high-energy physics at Quaid-e-Azam University in Islamabad.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- If the world is to be spared what future historians may call the "century of terror," we will have to chart a perilous course between the Scylla of American imperial arrogance and the Charybdis of Islamic religious fanaticism. Through these waters, we must steer by a distant star toward a careful, reasoned, democratic, humanistic and secular future. Otherwise, shipwreck is certain.

For nearly four months now, leaders of the Muslim community in the United States, and even President Bush, have routinely asserted that Islam is a religion of peace that was hijacked by fanatics on Sept. 11.

These two assertions are simply untrue.

First, Islam -- like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism or any other religion -- is not about peace. Nor is it about war. Every religion is about absolute belief in its own superiority and the divine right to impose its version of truth upon others. In medieval times, both the Crusades and the Jihads were soaked in blood. Today, there are Christian fundamentalists who attack abortion clinics in the United States and kill doctors; Muslim fundamentalists who wage their sectarian wars against each other; Jewish settlers who, holding the Old Testament in one hand and Uzis in the other, burn olive orchards and drive Palestinians off their ancestral land; and Hindus in India who demolish ancient mosques and burn down churches.

The second assertion is even further off the mark. Even if Islam had, in some metaphorical sense, been hijacked, that event did not occur three months ago. It was well over seven centuries ago that Islam suffered a serious trauma, the effects of which refuse to go away.

Where do Muslims stand today? Note that I do not ask about Islam; Islam is an abstraction. Maulana Abdus Sattar Edhi, Pakistan's preeminent social worker, and the Taliban's Mohammad Omar are both followers of Islam, but the former is overdue for a Nobel Peace Prize while the latter is an ignorant, psychotic fiend. Palestinian writer Edward Said, among others, has insistently pointed out that Islam holds very different meaning for different people. Within my own family, hugely different kinds of Islam are practiced. The religion is as heterogeneous as those who believe andfollow it. There is no "true Islam."

Today, Muslims number 1 billion. Of the 48 countries with a full or near Muslim majority, none has yet evolved a stable democratic political system. In fact, all Muslim countries are dominated by self-serving corrupt elites who cynically advance their personal interests and steal resources from their people. None of these countries has a viable educational system or a university of international stature.

Reason, too, has been waylaid.

You will seldom see a Muslim name as you flip through scientific journals, and if you do, the chances are that this person lives in the West. There are a few exceptions: Pakistani Abdus Salam, together with Americans Steven Weinberg and Sheldon Glashow, won the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1979. I got to know Salam reasonably well; we even wrote a book preface together. He was a remarkable man, terribly in love with his country and his religion. And yet he died deeply unhappy, scorned by Pakistan, declared a non-Muslim by an act of the Pakistani parliament in 1974. Today the Ahmadi sect, to which Salam belonged, is considered heretical and harshly persecuted. (My next-door neighbor, an Ahmadi physicist, was shot in the neck and heart and died in my car as I drove him to the hospital seven years ago. His only fault was to have been born into the wrong sect.)

Though genuine scientific achievement is rare in the contemporary Muslim world, pseudo-science is in generous supply. A former chairman of my department has calculated the speed of heaven: He maintains it is receding from Earth at one centimeter per second less than the speed of light. His ingenious method relies upon a verse inthe Islamic holy book, which says that worship on the night on whichthe book was revealed is worth a thousand nights of ordinary worship. He states that this amounts to a time-dilation factor of 1,000, which he puts into a formulaof Einstein's theory of special relativity.

A more public example: One of two Pakistani nuclear engineers recently arrested on suspicion of passing nuclear secrets to the Taliban had earlier proposed to solve Pakistan's energy problems by harnessing the power of genies. He relied on the Islamic belief that God created man from clay, and angels and genies from fire; so this highly placed engineer proposed to capture the genies and extract their energy.

Today's sorry situation contrasts starkly with the Islam of yesterday. Between the 9th and 13th centuries -- the Golden Age of Islam -- the only people doing decent work in science, philosophy or medicine were Muslims. Muslims not only preserved ancient learning, they also made substantial innovations. The loss of this tradition has proven tragic for Muslim peoples.

Science flourished in the Golden Age of Islam because of a strong rationalist and liberal tradition, carried on by a group of Muslim thinkers known as the Mutazilites.

But in the 12th century, Muslim orthodoxy reawakened, spearheaded by the Arab cleric Imam Al-Ghazali. Al-Ghazali championed revelation over reason, predestination over free will. He damned mathematics as being against Islam, an intoxicant of the mind that weakened faith.

Caught in the viselike grip of orthodoxy, Islam choked. No longer would Muslim, Christian and Jewish scholars gather and work together in the royal courts. It was the end of tolerance, intellect and science in the Muslim world. The last great Muslim thinker, Abd-al Rahman Ibn Khaldun, belonged to the 14th century.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world moved on. The Renaissance brought an explosion of scientific inquiry in the West. This owed much totranslations of Greek works carried out by Arabs and other Muslim contributions, but they were to matter little. Mercantile capitalism and technological progress drove Western countries -- in ways that were often brutal and at times genocidal -- to rapidly colonize the Muslim world from Indonesia to Morocco. It soon became clear, at least to some of the Muslim elites, that they were paying a heavy price for not possessing the analytical tools of modern science and the social and political values of modern culture -- the real source of power of their colonizers.

Despite widespread resistance from the orthodox, the logic of modernity found 19th-century Muslim adherents. Some seized on the modern idea of the nation-state. It is crucial to note that not a single Muslim nationalist leader of the 20th century was a fundamentalist.

However, Muslim and Arab nationalism, part of a larger anti-colonial nationalist current across the Third World, included the desire to control and use national resources for domestic benefit. The conflict with Western greed was inevitable. The imperial interests of Britain, and later the United States, feared independent nationalism. Anyone willing to collaborate was preferred, even the ultraconservative Islamic regime of Saudi Arabia. In 1953, Mohammed Mosaddeq of Iran was overthrown in a CIA coup, replaced by Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Britain targeted Egypt's Gamal Abdel Nasser. Indonesia's Sukarno was replaced by Suharto after a bloody coup that left hundreds of thousands dead.

Pressed from outside, corrupt and incompetent from within, secular Muslim governments proved unable to defend national interests or deliver social justice. They began to frustrate democracy to preserve their positions of power and privilege. These failures left a vacuum that Islamic religious movements grew to fill -- in Iran, Pakistan and Sudan, to name a few.

The lack of scruple and the pursuit of power by the United States combined fatally with this tide in the Muslim world in 1979, when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. With Pakistan's Mohammed Zia ul-Haq as America's foremost ally, the CIA openly recruited Islamic holy warriors from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Algeria. Radical Islam went into overdrive as its superpower ally and mentor funneled support to the mujaheddin; Ronald Reagan feted them on the White House lawn.

The rest is by now familiar: After the Soviet Union collapsed, the United States walked away from an Afghanistan in shambles. The Taliban emerged; Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda made Afghanistan their base.

What should thoughtful people infer from this whole narrative?

For Muslims, it is time to stop wallowing in self-pity: Muslims are not helpless victims of conspiracies hatched by an all-powerful, malicious West. The fact is that the decline of Islamic greatness took place long before the age of mercantile imperialism. The causes were essentially internal. Therefore Muslims must be introspective and ask what went wrong.

Muslims must recognize that their societies are far larger, more diverse and complex than the small homogeneous tribal society in Arabia 1,400 years ago. It is therefore time to renounce the idea that Islam can survive and prosper only in an Islamic state run according to sharia, or Islamic law. Muslims need a secular and democratic state that respects religious freedom and human dignity and is founded on the principle that power belongs to the people. This means confronting and rejecting the claim by orthodox Islamic scholars that, in an Islamic state, sovereignty belongs to the vice-regents of Allah, or Islamic jurists, not to the people.

Muslims must not look to the likes of bin Laden; such people have no real answer and can offer no real positive alternative. To glorify their terrorism is a hideous mistake: The unremitting slaughter of Shiites, Christians and Ahmadis in their places of worship in Pakistan, and of other minorities in other Muslim countries, is proof that all terrorism is not about the revolt of the dispossessed.

The United States, too, must confront bitter truths. The messages of George W. Bush and Tony Blair fall flat while those of bin Laden, whether he lives or dies, resonate strongly across the Muslim world. Bin Laden's religious extremism turns off many Muslims, but they find his political message easy to relate to: The United States must stop helping Israel in dispossessing the Palestinians, stop propping up corrupt and despotic regimes across the world just because they serve U.S. interests.

Americans will also have to accept that their triumphalism and disdain for international law are creating enemies everywhere, not just among Muslims. Therefore they must become less arrogant and more like other peoples of this world.

Our collective survival lies in recognizing that religion is not the solution; neither is nationalism. We have but one choice: the path of secular humanism, based upon the principles of logic and reason. This alone offers the hope of providing everybody on this globe with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Pervez Hoodbhoy is a professor of nuclear and high-energy physics at Quaid-e-Azam University in Islamabad.

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« Reply #3 on: 08 February 2002, 11:45:00 am »

Yep - 'wedge politiking' is the biggest money-spinner of all - in a dualistic system. In this age of post-modernism, the devil comes no more in a red suit with a forked tail ... any trickster face is possible, especially if it is condoned as "necessary business tactics". Hermes is indeed alive and thriving in the market place!
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« Reply #4 on: 17 February 2002, 17:14:00 pm »

Coming from an idealist high school is sometimes both a curse and a blessing.  But what one young woman is trying to do is to bring those ideals into actions.  Melissa Kwee, I salute you for it.

Here is something interesting that what the United World College of South East Asia is trying to do.  We are trying to bring together 40 students  from India and Pakistan to Singapore for a dialogue and build understanding about the Kashmir dispute.  Youth connecting youth to build peace.  It is based loosely on the 'Seeds of Peace' program launched in America where Palestine and Israeli students were brought together for summer camp.  It is not an experiment.

If we are to focus on changing the world, whether it is in Kashmir or in the Middle East, we must start with the youth.

Call me an idealist, but we have to start somewhere.

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