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jbmt

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« on: 06 January 2007, 7:28:00 am »
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Hello.

Would appreciate if someone of you could enlighten me on what's happening re my employment pass applications.

My case is like this:

I came in to Singapore as social visit pass holder for 30days and luckily I got a job offer in weeks time and my employer referred me to their accredited agency who applied for my employment pass. The agency then informed me that my epass application was rejected as well as my s pass rejected and now is undergoing an appeal.

I am just wondering what are the chances that my appeal would get approved?

And would my job offer would just be wasted if I don't get an employment pass?

I have read somewhere that if you have a sponsor or got a job offer with an employer then you need not worry about the employment pass but I am know very stressful of thinking why my application for employment pass or s pass was rejected.

And I am now hoping and praying that my appeal be approved.

I do not want to go back to my country at this time because I do not want to leave my husband here who is currently a work permit holder.

Please enlighten me.

Thank you very much.

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« on: 06 January 2007, 7:28:00 am »
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« Reply #1 on: 06 January 2007, 8:40:00 am »
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Too many variables and not enough info.  It depends on a lot of factors. Education, positino offered, salary offered, etc.

If the company was willing to hire you they thought they could get you an EP.  They have had it rejected but are not giving up.  So far this is bad news followed by better news. Your only course of action is to wait out the appeal and see what happens.  

If it is rejected try to find out the reason from the agency (although they may not get told) - if it was job/salary you may have a shot with a better job.  If it was something intrinsic to your qualifications you may be in bigger trouble.

I am also assuming your husband's EP is not one which allows dependant sponsorship or you could go that route.

Good Luck! I hope you hear good news.

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« Reply #2 on: 06 January 2007, 12:29:00 pm »
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Thanks for the reply Not Enough Info.

Here are some of the details re me and the job offer:

Thanks for your feedback Not Enough Info.

I am a Degree holder of Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and have 2 years of working experience in the position that I am applying for with the MNC compsny that hired me but all in all I have 10 years of working experience in I.T.


The company/agency's job offer:

Job Title: Network Controller
Salary:  S$2900


I spoke with the agency and they too cannot provide me anything that could have caused the rejection of my initial application for epass/spass.They said that they too was surprised because they actually are expecting that I could get at least a Q1 pass.They said that MOM is not giving any explanation why they reject such application.

1)  Is it possible to reappeal and reappeal again if incase that the first appeal was also rejected?

2)  Can I choose a different agency who could help me in getting an employment pass because my agency have told me that the only reason they thought was  about QUOTA?

3) Can I apply to another job while waiting for the result of the appeal?

4) Is MOM capable of extending my stay here in Singapore if they noticed that I have an on-going appeal with them because my vsit pass will expire 2 weeks from now and ICA marked in my passport that this would be the final extension they could give.


Thank you very much to all who will reply.

Greatly appreciated.


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« Reply #3 on: 07 January 2007, 16:30:00 pm »
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About 10 years ago, one of my staff went through a similar experience where his EP application was rejected - and even the subsequent appeal was rejected too. This decision seemed unusual because his immediately previous job was under and EP in Singapore before.

Rather than write a second appeal letter, the office manager and I went down to Immigration and VERY politely asked if they could give a reason why his EP had been rejected because, as far as we could see, every thing was in order.

The way I put it was that, although they had every right to reject an EP without giving  a reason, it would be helpful to me to have more guidelines so that I would be able to handle any other foreign recruitments more smoothly.

The officer that we met turned out to be very helpful and agreed that, from what he could see, there was no reason to reject the EP application. He explained that about once a week a vetting commitee meets up to decide upon EP applications and he would be on the next one, the following week. he said that he didn't think there would be any problems. Sure enough, 10 days later, my staff got his EP.

Yes, it would appear that decisions about granting EPs are really as arbitary as that.

The moral of the story: if, as far as you can see, all your paperwork is in order, try going down to Immigration with your new employer and asking VERY POLITELY if there was anything missing from your application. It's probably better if your employer does all the talking. The approcah to take will be that your empoyer simply wants to smoothen the EP application process so that his company can hire and put foreigners to work more efficiently.

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« Reply #4 on: 08 January 2007, 6:26:00 am »
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Thank you Addadude. You gave me hope with that.

For now, I've been hoping that my appeal would be approved before my 2 weeks extension lapse.It should be before january 18.

My agency would not want to sponsor me for an extension and advised me to just go to MOM and ask for an extension since I'm still waiting for the result of the appeal. I don't know if it's possible for MOM to extend my stay in SG, ICA already noted in my passport that the 2 weeks extension that they gave me is final.

Worst comes to worst, I'll go back to Philippines and wait there til my EP appeal is approved.

Hope to hear some more tips from you guys.

Awaiting still....

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« Reply #5 on: 09 January 2007, 8:48:00 am »
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I'd bet that the reason for the rejection was the salary. I think MOM is scrutinizing salaries under $3500 much more than in the past--inflation is making it harder and harder for Singaporeans to live/compete, I think. The theory being that these are positions that could/should really be going to locals. I think the best strategy would be to have your prospective employer contact MOM and counsel them that your expertise is unique and generally unavailable locally. Hope this makes sense and helps.
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« Reply #6 on: 10 January 2007, 6:13:00 am »
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Thank you, Guest.

Well, I'm just hoping for a better result of the appeal.

And I do hope that my employer won't give up on following it up with MOM.

I'll just wait and see...


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« Reply #7 on: 10 January 2007, 22:55:00 pm »
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perhaps you can try using the self-assessment tool for employment pass on the MOM website? I'ts not iron-clad but helps a little to know i suppose to..
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« Reply #8 on: 24 January 2007, 6:02:00 am »
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maybe one of the reasons that your application was been rejected was incomplete documents..why not you ask your employer that you personally apply the pass and not with the agency since you are here in singapore and will be easier for you to extend your stay here as the officer will chop the extension after you submit the application.
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« Reply #9 on: 24 January 2007, 9:25:00 am »
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The salary is the problem.

Without anything else it is saying that this role should be able to be filled from existing local resource. If it was such a specialised field, then the salary would reflect this.

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« Reply #10 on: 24 January 2007, 19:21:00 pm »
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Hello everyone.

Thank you very much for all the replies.

Know what?

My pass has finally been approved after it went thru an appeal and I very much happy.

Prayers really work!  Believe me!

I am now conditioning myself for the medical exam and the real challenge, WORK.

Thanks to all of you.

God Bless you all!!!

Pray...

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« Reply #11 on: 25 January 2007, 3:35:00 am »
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I am happy to read a happy-ending story!Yay!!!
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« Reply #12 on: 25 January 2007, 10:05:00 am »
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Agree with posts above.

Basically the salalry is too low, quals look ok.  In theory it is high enough but at that level much more scrutiny, wy not hire a local?

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« Reply #13 on: 25 January 2007, 12:12:00 pm »
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Congrats jbmt! Hope you enjoy your life (and work) here!
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« Reply #14 on: 25 January 2007, 14:39:00 pm »
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congrats
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