PR Rejected

[Dyson]

I have just returned to Singapore on a new job, having been employed here previously 4 years ago. I did have my own PEP that was cancelled a couple of years ago because I hadn't been back to Singapore and met the criteria. I would like to apply for PR for me and my wife + 3 kids. When will be the best time to make an application. My present job will last 6 - 12 months.

Thanks

[That much experience..]

I just received my PR notice "REJECTED"... I work in my company for 3 years and this is the first time I applied and my salary is S$2,5++ holding S-Pass and I am staying in a condo for 3 years and I had 3 professional certificates and I had 14 years experience in IT and after 3 months I received the result "R E J E C T E D".... Why I C A? For bunch of application you received in your office how many are you trying to check all the applications for PR? I guess they are doing it on a raffle draw basis.... Too bad... Singapore can live without foreigners i guess.... Good luck Singapore...

..in IT and you're only earning $S2,500+?? Then you're on S-Pass. What makes you so "special" then? And how much will you contribute to SG (tax, spending, etc)? Even under "normal" situation (i.e., more liberal granting of PRs), ICA would be hard-pressed approving your PR application.

[Chances are low..]

I have just returned to Singapore on a new job, having been employed here previously 4 years ago. I did have my own PEP that was cancelled a couple of years ago because I hadn't been back to Singapore and met the criteria. I would like to apply for PR for me and my wife + 3 kids. When will be the best time to make an application. My present job will last 6 - 12 months.

Thanks

..that you will be granted PR status this time, especially in today's political situation. Would be better to try late next year or even later, assuming you still have job with your present employer.

[Kafka]

I have just returned to Singapore on a new job, having been employed here previously 4 years ago. I did have my own PEP that was cancelled a couple of years ago because I hadn't been back to Singapore and met the criteria. I would like to apply for PR for me and my wife + 3 kids. When will be the best time to make an application. My present job will last 6 - 12 months.

Thanks

..that you will be granted PR status this time, especially in today's political situation. Would be better to try late next year or even later, assuming you still have job with your present employer.

Agree with PP, would be challenging to have PR granted so quickly for any employee on EP, all the more if you are on a contract with a short EP (just guessing?)... Just curious, so you're bringing your wife + 3 kids along for 6-12 months only...?

[REPRenewal]

Just another data point for what it is worth.

I am a PR and was wondering how long it'd take to renew my REP after reading all the comments/stories here, mainly because I'm in my 50's. However, when I applied for REP renewal online, it was approved instantly, at the end of the payment process; meaning the REP was presented as a pdf file to be saved/printed. I was surprised that there was no wait time at all - that's possible, too.

Personal details: Single, ~20K/mo BMS, US citizen with a graduate degree from the US, plus own a condo here.

Wish all those applying for PR and REP renewal the best of luck.

[titan]

I don't think wealthy people like the above poster will have any problem getting PR here. The wealthy seem to be shown favor.  However, since there is no way for me to verify who gets it and who doesn't and how many people have actually applied all I can do is guess at the process.

I know a wealthy person who married a foreign lady -they've been married less than a year & she was approved for PR on the first try.Oh, and she wasn't even working as far as I know when it was approved.

I am not wealthy - married to a Singaporean for 2 years, working for  3 years and have been rejected more than once for a PR.

[DinoMartino]

My wife and I applied and left our son out (who is only 3 but born in Singapore).  Got the letter asking to explain, responded that we felt he should decide when he is able to.  All this took about a year.  Rejected.  We earn well, are well educated, are from two EU countries... clearly it is policy to reject those that do not hand their sons over for 2 years military service.  Fair enough, but I think it might save time and admin for everyone simply to state that sons must be included as a condition. 

Anyone consider applying, be aware that this seems to be a deal breaker for the "gamen"

Today I read stamp duty is less for PR's and it has gone up BY 10% for foreigners.  Understandable in a way, though its a shame they dont make more distinction on foreigners as many of us are actually residents and have beeen for a long time.  For sure this will become another motive to apply.  I wonder how this will affect the number of applications.

[jalanperak]

My wife and I applied and left our son out (who is only 3 but born in Singapore).  Got the letter asking to explain, responded that we felt he should decide when he is able to.  All this took about a year.  Rejected.  We earn well, are well educated, are from two EU countries... clearly it is policy to reject those that do not hand their sons over for 2 years military service.  Fair enough, but I think it might save time and admin for everyone simply to state that sons must be included as a condition. 

Anyone consider applying, be aware that this seems to be a deal breaker for the "gamen"

Frankly, as it should be. A lot of PRs choose to leave the country before their children are old enough for PR (or send the kids out of the country for schooling), but if you're blatant enough to thumb your nose at the government by leaving your 3 year old son off of your PR application, you can't complain when they reject your application. If you're willing to live and work here, and you want to be a permanent resident, you have to agree that your male children will do NS.

I don't know if this is a "policy" but obviously it is a factor in deciding whether to grant PR or not.

[Another Rejected Guy]

We joined 8 person in a company. all were in  same salary and same s-pass holders. we were 2 Burmise, 1 Philippino, 1 Indian,1 vietnamese, 2 malaysian chinese and 2 Indonesian Chinese.

after 2/3 yeras all the 4 chinese got PR. and all of us 2/3 time rejected. i don't know...why    

[engineer12]

We joined 8 person in a company. all were in  same salary and same s-pass holders. we were 2 Burmise, 1 Philippino, 1 Indian,1 vietnamese, 2 malaysian chinese and 2 Indonesian Chinese.

after 2/3 yeras all the 4 chinese got PR. and all of us 2/3 time rejected. i don't know...why    

When did you apply recently and when was it rejected? Are you still on S Pass?

[8personCo.]

What kinda company is that? Fly by night Ops ? or a hit and run sorta thing?

[I am nobody]

Waited for six months, rejected. No reason stated. Planned to buy a hdb, planned to have kids when we got the house since I'm no longer young. My friends got approval thou, they are not even diploma holders, pay less than 2000, some not even working, but their husbands are rich. So unfair, I know that's how the world is but still can't help to feel sad.

[Krish]

Well let me share some points might be useful to some of you ...

Of recent hearing many rejection cases doesn't matter it's new or renewal or applying for kids born whose parents are PR.

Have a couple of friends , married , wife working , have one kid and own HDB staying in singapore for 8 yrs recently they applied for the new born girl baby -- Rejected.
 
Other friend Married, wife working , have one kid all of them PR , own HDB flat Renewal -- Rejected  (Reason ICA said wht ever he earns sending back to his home country then why stay in singapore).

My case applied long back in 2005 , was earning 3k p.m but was in same company for 5 years and applied for the first time for PR got approval letter in 6 days.(Why 6 days may be coz i was holding candian PR so background check was not done).


So my guess is ICA looks into a person profile like how long he stayed in singapore (don't go for long vacations under loss of pay or taking break from job ) , his job stability working long term in one company or not for low income ppl this might apply , for High income ppl it all depends on race and income.

--Krish

[bollox]

Other friend Married, wife working , have one kid all of them PR , own HDB flat Renewal -- Rejected  (Reason ICA said wht ever he earns sending back to his home country then why stay in singapore).

--Krish

They don't give reasons

[Nonamewas]

Well let me share some points might be useful to some of you ...

Of recent hearing many rejection cases doesn't matter it's new or renewal or applying for kids born whose parents are PR.

Have a couple of friends , married , wife working , have one kid and own HDB staying in singapore for 8 yrs recently they applied for the new born girl baby -- Rejected.
 
Other friend Married, wife working , have one kid all of them PR , own HDB flat Renewal -- Rejected  (Reason ICA said wht ever he earns sending back to his home country then why stay in singapore).

My case applied long back in 2005 , was earning 3k p.m but was in same company for 5 years and applied for the first time for PR got approval letter in 6 days.(Why 6 days may be coz i was holding candian PR so background check was not done).


So my guess is ICA looks into a person profile like how long he stayed in singapore (don't go for long vacations under loss of pay or taking break from job ) , his job stability working long term in one company or not for low income ppl this might apply , for High income ppl it all depends on race and income.

--Krish

Bingo !That's the real reason, it's to force sell the HDB that was purchase to release the supply!! incrementally !

If you have a HDB flat resale, and PR, instant reject..Sell below valuation or get booked for overstaying.

My advise to get a private condo