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« on: 26 November 2000, 0:20:00 am »
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I am interested in a financial/treasury position in Singapore with a corporate/bank
in the new year. I am wondering who is the best headhunter to use or would it be best to send a CV out to people and follow it up with a phone call. I realize there may be some people who leave after year end bonus time and should be some opportunities about.
Any suggestions or information greatly appreciated, please email if confidential info.  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: 26 November 2000, 14:55:00 pm »
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I would urge you to contact the Canadian banks at headoffice typically TO, to get in the door in S'pore or HK.  Coming from headoffice is MUCH better to your deal ticket.  Good luck they all have HR on the WWW.

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« Reply #2 on: 26 November 2000, 19:07:00 pm »
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Tey Robert Walters - Andrea Curran, she'll be able to help u. www.robertwalters.com.sg
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« Reply #3 on: 27 November 2000, 9:44:00 am »
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I appreciate all the information that everyone has provided. As for the Canadian banks, I can tell you that they all currently do not offer many packages overseas, and when they do they are usually only local terms which really doesnt amount to much. If HR Manager reads this, could you send me an email..

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« Reply #4 on: 27 November 2000, 10:50:00 am »
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I work for a Canadian bank here and can tell you that there are very few expats here anymore except in very senior positions. This has been going on for several years as Canadian banks have been focussing on North America. Frankly, most Canadians I know here are not on a "package" but are happily living on local terms, making good money and saving a fortune in income tax.
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« Reply #5 on: 27 November 2000, 12:54:00 pm »
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thanks canuck banker...I also worked for a
Canadian bank in Asia...and agree with you that packages are hard to come by, but think in the next couple of years , if they want to compete with the U.S. and European institutions, they will have to start stepping up to the plate..
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« Reply #6 on: 27 November 2000, 16:11:00 pm »
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Increasingly the (banking) business is global.  If you want to compete for quality staff in the global marketplace you have to accept the price of the "pool" of talent that there is in the market.  Skills are transferrable anywhere and Supply/Demand will determine value for Banks (and any employer).  First yr MBA's from the US are earning USD 160K pa.  The market is GLOBAL.  Get over it or die - dinosaurs!
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« Reply #7 on: 27 November 2000, 16:41:00 pm »
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Canuck what sort of Treasury job are you looking for and what experience do you have?
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« Reply #8 on: 28 November 2000, 0:44:00 am »
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Canuck,

The best way to get a Sales or Trading position in the Global Markets/Treasury area of an investment bank is through word of mouth.  Most front office people network with  other traders/sales people at the pub.  In this business, it's really "who you know" that counts.  

A lot of senior Treasury people prefer not to use headhunters because they don't want to pay any recruitment fees.  Also, they  usually feel that they have a better feel for the market than the headhunters.  Most senior sales people/traders and heads of the desk usually know who the good people are at the other banks.  Quite often, they just poach sales people/traders from their competitors themselves.  A lot of Treasury people don't even want their HR Dep't to get involved in the recruitment process.  The senior Traders usually do all of their own interviewing and then just ask HR to spit out the offer letter to the candidate. (Of course, there are some exceptions).

A good place for you to network with other sales people/traders in the banking industry is "Harry's Bar" down at Boat Quay.  A lot of the guys hang out there on Thursday and Friday night.

Another option is to write down a list of banks which you would like to work for, then find out who the Head of Treasury/Global Markets is and send your resume directly to him/her. You may want to send your resume to the Head of the FX, Derivatives, Fixed Income etc.  desk instead.

Another option is to contact a couple of headhunters who specialise in front office jobs.  I have met with several of these headhunters in Singapore and have generally found them to be pretty useless.  A lot of them don't even understand what we're looking for and are just interested in making commmission.

You could try Mervyn Koh at Morgan & Banks. Contact phone number is (65) 339 0355.

Another possibility is Gary Thompson at The Consulting Partnership.  Phone: (65) 224 7600.

You could also try sending your CV to the HR Manager in each bank who looks after Treasury/Global Markets.  He/she could then pass your details onto the relevant hiring manager.

With regards to expat packages - A lot of banks still offer expat or semi-expat packages to front office people  in Treasury/Global Markets and  the Investment Banking Division. You may not be offered a full expat package that includes a club membership, company car, home leave etc. but several banks are still offering good base salaries, local medical and hospital benefits and housing allowances to some candidates.

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« Reply #9 on: 28 November 2000, 7:12:00 am »
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thanks HR Manager..I spent many nights at
Harrys, and have the visa bills to prove it!!
I realize word of mouth is the best way to get in somewhere, unfortunately I am on the other side of the planet but willing to fly out there if I can line up some interviews.

CK..I have 12 years trading experience in
FX, MM and Equities, and have traded some
Fixed Income products...I worked in Singapore a couple of years ago and would like another
opportunity, whether be FX, Equities or something new...I have an MBA so that might get me in the door at a major house and I dont mind starting in a junior position for
awhile if it means learning a new product

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« Reply #10 on: 28 November 2000, 7:45:00 am »
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Have a look here:
http://www.tmjnetsearch.com/
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« Reply #11 on: 28 November 2000, 9:14:00 am »
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All great tips. But I would be remiss in not pointing out that some of the "Senior Guys" are actually "Senior Gals"

There's precious little going on in trading/sales/treasury in Canadian banks in Singapore but plenty of movement in European and large Asian institutions. And it's true that bonuses are due to be paid soon so you might want to make a few phone calls/send emails to hr/dept heads with a view to hopping on a plane.

HR Manager is right about the use of headhunters for trading positions .. I don't think it's so much about the fees as it is about feel for the market, as he/she pointed out.

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« Reply #12 on: 29 November 2000, 12:41:00 pm »
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thanks everyone for their input. I have received tremendous amount of information and names. I hope to line up a few interviews out there in the new year.
If anyone out there has more suggestions, feel free to send them my way.

CK..could you send me an email, I have a
question for you.

cheers

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« Reply #13 on: 08 December 2000, 7:13:00 am »
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I saw a list of HR heads on another topic
for the investment banker, I was wondering if those are the same HR heads for treasury/
trading positions.

CK if your out there, could you send me an
email please...
thanks

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« Reply #14 on: 08 December 2000, 7:50:00 am »
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OK I have sent the email.

Cheers

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