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USgirl
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« on: 14 January 2003, 17:03:00 pm »
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My husband and I might be moving to Singapore from Scandinavia. My biggest concern is putting my cat through the ordeals of the flight and then the 30 days quarrantine.
On flights to the States, some airlines let you keep the cat with you in the cabin. Does anyone know if there any flights to Singapore from Europe that allow that?
And what about the quarrantine facilities? Has anyone brought their cat over? What was it like?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Sneezy
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« Reply #1 on: 14 January 2003, 20:58:00 pm »
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I really hope you are not sitting near me if you bring your cat into the cabin.  If I am not prepared I will turn into a weezy, swelling, itchy, sneezing, life threatening mess.

Do your fellow passengers a favour and don't bring your pet into the cabin.

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« Reply #2 on: 14 January 2003, 23:14:00 pm »
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USgirl - not sure about how to fly cat.  My came from France in special crate and arrived none the worse for wear.  Quarantine facilities are very good and he has adjusted well to the heat.
I think that if you come from a country that does not have a pet passport scheme with Singapore you cannot carry the cat with you on board.  Everything must be done through a proper carrier agent.  Make sure that you have all the paperwork sorted out well in advance and that you deal with someone who knows what they are talking about.  My cat's move was a nightmare because the moving company I dealt with assured me that they had the knowledge & expertise to move my cat in addition to my household goods but they turned out to be utterly useless causing me much heart ache and distress.  I spent three weeks doing their work for them.  The Ministry is very good here and this site has links to them.
Best of luck am sure you wont need it
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« Reply #3 on: 15 January 2003, 14:11:00 pm »
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Dear Kiwi,
Thank you for your response. I'm glad to hear that your cat went through the transition well. I have read that you can rent an air-conditioned room in the pet quarrantine, and if we move I will plan to do that. I'm mostly worried about her being without us for the four weeks' quarrantine. If we decide to move, I will definitely look into the pet movers, but I will take her in the cabin if I find an airline going to Singapore that allows that.

To Sneezy,
I would think that when a passenger brings an animal along with them in the cabin, the airline advises those who hold tickets for seats near that passenger. People can request to be seated away from babies too.

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Meouw
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« Reply #4 on: 15 January 2003, 22:26:00 pm »
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Ditch her and get yourself some local pusy - plenty of it around!!!
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Sneezy
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« Reply #5 on: 16 January 2003, 5:05:00 am »
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I wish you were right USgirl, unfortunately they don't mention it to people sitting nearby simple because no one would want to sit nearby.  Same goes with babies, normally restricted to the front most seats where the bassinets can hook up.  They will only tell you what's there is you ask to sit there specifically.

On a full flight they wont say a word and you don't even have a chance to change seats.

Do your fellow paying passengers a favour and transport it in the hold like thousands others do everyday.

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« Reply #6 on: 16 January 2003, 5:56:00 am »
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our cat just finished the quarrantine and joined us.   She didn't take the flight with us but took cargo flight of SIA from NY to SIN.   So I can't help you about the flight, but one of my friend once took the same ANA flight with her cat and they let her to keep the cat in the cabin  from NY to Japan.   ANA is a Japanese airline and they have both direct & connecting flight from many countries  to Singapore.
Our cat is very old about 13 years old, and
I must say the quarrantine was very tough for her.     The first week was terrible she frightened so much and got so weak, lost much her weight so all of us including quarrantine staff seriously worried.    We visited her as many as possible (there is a visiting time,  that changed from this January so I don't know about updated visiting time but it was 5pm to 7 pm on weekdays and 2 to 6 pm on Saturday.  I think the new visiting time should be  more earlier     But the quarrantine staff was very helpful and they always kept special attention to her (because she was so weak & vomitted and needed to be checked by Vet's )  so after 2 weeks, she was fine.   And she is happy to be in Singapore with us now.  
If your cat is healthy and young,  it should be no problem though I still must say 1 month quarrantine is tough.   When we visited her at quarrantine, we saw about 12 cats in the same aircon room (in the different cage) but they all looked very relaxed and non of them looked very sick except ours !
So please do not worry.   Hope this will help you.
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« Reply #7 on: 16 January 2003, 18:59:00 pm »
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Abandon the beast to its fate - plenty of cats here in Singapore.

In fact, if you don't like cats, Singapore can be described as infested with cats.

As they are everywhere, they hold little status with locals, except Malays; who can't have dogs as pets. Chinese like dogs, as a permit is neccessary to have a dog, which costs money; and other Singaporeans will know they have money if they can afford a dog.

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« Reply #8 on: 17 January 2003, 6:08:00 am »
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To the person who shared her cat's quarrantine story,
Thank you so much for the information about the airline & quarrantine. If we make the move, I will contact that airline and find out what I need to do to bring her with me. (Sorry Sneezy).
It must have been horrible to see your cat suffer like that. That is what I am most worried about. It sounds like it was because of her age, like you said, which must have made it harder for her to deal with stress. Our cat is very young (She will be 3 years May 25), so based on what you wrote, I can hope that she would handle it as well as the other cats you saw. That is my only real concern about moving to Singapore. Again, thank you for taking the time to share your information with me.

To Catman,
I will look right past that first comment you made, and thank you for responding with the interesting information about pets in Singapore. It's sad that there are so many feral cats. I used to live in Key West, with a similar climate to Singapore's, and there were cats EVERYWHERE there too. They seemed pretty happy though. The homeless people there were also doing quite well compared to other cities.

Anyway, thanks for the interest, and I would appreciate more quarrantine stories, as well as airline experiences.

USgirl

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« Reply #9 on: 17 January 2003, 9:27:00 am »
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Regarding the airlines, I suggest you find out right now about which one will allow you to have the cat in the cabin with you.  The carrier/kennel that your cat will be in, must fit under the seat in front of you (so, that leaves out the aisle seat, right?). United used to allow cats in the cabin, but not Singapore Airlines.  Our cat was too big to fit in a kennel that fit under a seat, so he had to be in a compartment down below.  It is not the same compartment as the luggage, it is temperature controlled, etc.  I am not sure which way would be the best for the animal, I am sure they are going to be frightened/concerned either way.  Once you get to Singapore and are at the Quarantine:  definitely the air con for the cats.  You can go to the website and see what the cages look like (they are quite big) and there will be a number of cages/cats along with yours.  In fact, the cats are so close that they can touch noses (which kind of defeats the purpose of the quarantine, doesn't it?).  We did not have a "pet mover" handle our cat...we did it ourselves.  We wanted to see our cat after he arrived...we didn't want to wait until he arrived at the Quarantine Station.  THAT was difficult...we had to hire a taxi (flat rate for 4 hours)...had to drive clear around the airport and to the terminals where they are bringing in import goods (can't think of the name of it), but had to wait in a line to get a pass to enter this area, then had to find the building where the quarantine at the airport is (different from the quarantine station)...the airport quarantine is where they will keep the animal for X amount of hours to make sure it is healthy enough to enter the country.  They were very nice, but you have to make sure that someone will be there when you arrive (I suggest that when you show them the paperwork at the airport, you have them call over there and make sure someone is there).  We had to wait for over an hour for someone to come back from lunch or whatever...but they were very nice and let us see our cat for however long we wanted.  I THINK we had to get the "vet" there to sign off...then we had to go to another place on our way out to pay "tax" on what we imported (the cat)...had to stand in line there, too, but the guy just signed off and didn't collect any money.  Then, had to stand in line to return the pass we had originally gotten to enter.

 We were told our cat would be at the Quarantine Station later that day and at that time visiting hours were 2-4pm and we went to see him...and he was not in the air con cattery...he was still in the "holding area" in a horrible wire cage, nothing solid under him...he was cramped and HOT, had no water!!!...he was very panicky, it was awful and we were furious!  It appears that we had not signed off that he was to have a flea treatment  (thought he didn't need the added trauma)... and come to find out, all it is is the Advantage where they put the liquid on the back of their neck.  And, in order for him to enter the air con cattery, he had to have this..now, if they had told us this ahead of time, we would have okayed it, since we were paying for the air con cattery right from the start...but they never said that it was a "must" for all cats that would be entering the air con.  Anyway, once we okayed that they put him into the air con cattery.  The employees were nice at the station...their visiting hours sucked (at that time it was 2-4pm everyday, but closed on Sundays) and they are located at the ends of the earth!  Someone has mentioned that they have changed their hours...I hope for the better!

I suggest you bring your own cat's food with you, so they don't have to change what they are used to.  Because, unless you feed your cat the same thing the station feeds the cats, the cat will have to make that change, too, and some cats get very upset about that.  Of course, the station will charge you extra for the privilege (yes, they charge YOU more for providing your own food).
I must say I met some of the nicest people at quarantine...after all, you have a lot in common...you have a cat(s), you are in Singapore for possibly the first time, you had to get yourself to the quarantine station either by car, bus, foot...only to be ignored by your cat after 10-20 minutes (after it took you an hour+ to get there!)...cat owners know all about this, right?

On hindsight, I think I would go with a "petmover" if I had to do it again...I think they will let you see your pet there at the passenger terminal, before they send it across the airport to the airport quarantine.  At least, this is what I have been told.  Every airline is different, so you would have to check.  
You have to check out EVERYTHING and ask questions (of course, if you don't know the right questions to ask, that is where the problems begin...)
Hope this has given you some insight and was helpful.

Good luck with your cat and your move to Singapore!

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« Reply #10 on: 17 January 2003, 15:11:00 pm »
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SOCal,
I cannot tell you how helpful your message is! Maybe you can imagine - what a difference that info before your move would have made.
I am printing it out so I  won't miss any of your tips.
I feel less worried than before, and feel like I can prepare as un-stressful a trip as possible for kitty, now that I'm armed with the right questions to ask!
How awful that those people didn't bother to give you just a little bit more information about the flea dip. I would have declined too!
Again, thank you so much!

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« Reply #11 on: 17 January 2003, 21:18:00 pm »
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my cat went thru quarantine
it was really hard on him
really hard
(he's the stressed out, shy type)

he was staying in the US w/ a "friend" that kept him in a tiny bedroom

when i returned and saw his living condition w/ that "friend",  i brought him back w/ me

it was the right choice!

he survived quarantine and has lived the past 4 years as an indoor cat

he now is the king at cockroach catching...

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Catshit
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« Reply #12 on: 17 January 2003, 22:12:00 pm »
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I hate these posts on cats!!...

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Sneezy
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« Reply #13 on: 17 January 2003, 22:24:00 pm »
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<i>It must have been horrible to see your cat suffer like that. </i>

Amazing really.  You prefer to have a human suffer just as badly if they are allergic to cats rather than have your cat put out.

If you read the threads closely above, you'll see the in cabin kennel is more cramped than the live cargo hold.

Give a thought to the human passengers on your flight too.

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« Reply #14 on: 18 January 2003, 2:22:00 am »
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USGirl
We used Petmovers when we brought our cats over from Hong Kong. They traveled in the compartment that animals go in, but they had a large container so were fine. I think I stressed more about the flight than they seemed to. One point to remember is most airlines only let cats travel in there or dogs on any one flight, not both together, so make sure you book in advance.
The quarantine station is very basic, and although the staff are very good, calling it a quarantine station is a bit of a joke. The cages are so close together that if any animal did have anything it would be passed round like wildfire,
I’d book your cats in the airconditioned accommodation, which although more expensive it means the shock of the climate here is lessened. We put our cats in there, and several people who had gone for the alternatives moved to the aircon room as their cats were suffering from the heat.
I would agree that it is best to supply your own cat food. It is annoying that you don’t get discount for doing that, but at least you can be happy that your pet is eating what it normally does.
On the whole our two didn’t seem too upset by the whole experience, but it did take them a few days to get over the smells, sounds etc of the other cats around them. I visited them every day, and agree with the previous poster – the place couldn’t be further than anywhere if it tried! But a month is a long time and I felt happier going in and checking them every day – they seemed to like it too!
I also supplied them with a bed each – fabric tube things so they could hide in them when it all got too much. You are warned that toys etc may be confiscated when your cat leaves, but ours weren’t.
I think that’s about all that I can think off ! Good luck with your move.
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