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« Reply #135 on: 12 September 2008, 16:12:19 pm »
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Sure I have taken that into consideration. And that is the really painful part. Think about all the Uncles who lined up in the rain outside a showflat in July 2007. To put a 20% deposit (  the families hard earned savings)

Well that flat is now worth 20% less.

So All that money they saved ( the deposit) is gone. The banks are now mortgaging 100% of an asset that will probaly continue to sink in value over the next 2 years. So when they go TOP they could owe 120% of the value. And the rental market may be soft.

This is what happens when markets double in a short period of time. Peolpe get burnt.

So dont get upset at me. Go talk to the agents who told you these properties are being "snapped up". The same guys that lurk here constantly trying to talk up a market when THE WORLD is telling you that property is an overvalued asset.

I am trying to help.

I am sure Singaporeans don't need your help and in any case there is nothing you can do to help.

Let me know if you need help in  getting your dream home.You sound patehtically desperate. Imagining  and hallucinating alone will not get you your dream home. Prayers may help if you believe in god.
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« Reply #136 on: 12 September 2008, 16:31:41 pm »
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i have 3 properties already thanks.

I think the desperation is the poor sods that took out the DPS apartment in 2007.
I do feel sorry for them. I am also feeling sorry for the sod who feels good about being the worlds best Master debator.

I have been falling off my chair laughing at that one all day.
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« Reply #137 on: 12 September 2008, 16:34:27 pm »
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Guest: "I only debate when I think it will make a difference. In your case, the theories sound so stupid that I will be wasting my time trying to debate with you"

Chaos theory: "mmmm It sounds like you are a Master at debating."

Guest: What took you so long to realise it?

This is absolutely priceless
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« Reply #138 on: 12 September 2008, 16:43:56 pm »
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i have 3 properties already thanks.

I think the desperation is the poor sods that took out the DPS apartment in 2007.
I do feel sorry for them. I am also feeling sorry for the sod who feels good about being the worlds best Master debator.

I have been falling off my chair laughing at that one all day.

Congrats on your acquistion of the properties.
Chances u may look back the prices u paid for your properties after many years ,wow is near historical low.
Buying DPS property maybe similar to buying commodity futures or playing share on margin with no holding power and all amounting to speculation where 90% will lose.So there is no surprise.
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« Reply #139 on: 12 September 2008, 16:47:14 pm »
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am sure Singaporeans don't need your help and in any case there is nothing you can do to help.

I think you will find this is an expat forum. So its more appropriate to say we dont need Agents spreading BS about over priced assets here thanks.

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« Reply #140 on: 12 September 2008, 20:31:24 pm »
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6 to 12 months down the road, it will be obvious that the burnt will be "chao tar" to a severe degree .... avoid buying sg property now
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« Reply #141 on: 12 September 2008, 23:45:00 pm »
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listen to the TROLL ... Sg property is a No No ..

Friday, September 12, 2008

3 years’ gains wiped out

Benchmark index and currency markets across Asia fell back


FOR stock markets across Asia, it is as if the past three years never happened.

The benchmark index covering the region’s big exchanges yesterday fell to its lowest level since November 2005, with investors worried about prospects for Asian exports. The currency markets experienced similar scenes as all 10 of the most-traded currencies in Asia outside of Japan fell back.

The MSCI Asia Pacific Index yesterday sank 2.6 per cent to 114.71 in late afternoon in Tokyo, set for its biggest loss since July 25. The week which started with a brave market rally ended dismally.

All 10 industry groups fell, led by financial stocks. In Singapore, the story was similar, with the Straits Times Index finishing 81.26 points, or 3.1 per cent, lower.

Singapore banks slumped on a worsening operating outlook and a downgrade of the financial sector by Merrill Lynch. “We have become more negative on Singapore banks as we expect slowing economic growth and a protracted downturn in the property market to impact profits next year,” the investment bank said.

Meanwhile, the European Commission lowered its full-year growth forecast for the 15-nation Euro region’s economy to 1.3 per cent, from 1.7 per cent earlier, and signalled that next year’s outlook may also be cut.

South Korea’s won and Indonesia’s rupiah led losses in Asian currencies on speculation that purchases of United States dollars will increase as overseas investors add to sales of regional stocks.

All 10 of the most-traded currencies in Asia outside of Japan fell as funds abroad sold more shares than they bought in Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines and Thailand. The won remained lower after the Bank of Korea kept interest rates unchanged at an eight-year high of 5.25 per cent. Asian currencies also declined as the US dollar rose to the highest in almost a year against the euro.

“Capital is moving back to the US,’’ said Mr Marcelo Ayes, senior vice-president for treasury at Rizal Commercial Banking Corp in Manila. “Banks, funds and companies are selling their investments in Asia and the rest of the world to fund recapitalisation of US companies.”

Malaysia’s ringgit traded close to a one-year low on speculation falling commodity prices such as palm oil will erode export receipts and curb growth in Southeast Asia’s third-largest economy.

The Singapore dollar lost 0.6 per cent to $1.4437 against the US unit.
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« Reply #142 on: 12 September 2008, 23:47:17 pm »
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the Joker got stuck at peak prices, bubble prices. Dont buy now.
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« Reply #143 on: 15 September 2008, 21:59:47 pm »
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I work in the building behind The Sail.  I can see through the building as there is a whole section that is empty!!!!! I thought this has already TOP - how come I could hardly see any tenant? Just curious.  Could somebody enlighten?   
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« Reply #144 on: 15 September 2008, 22:08:38 pm »
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sail price crashed 14% just last quarter because no one to rent so it has no ROI. The keys will start being handed in soon
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« Reply #145 on: 16 September 2008, 6:33:50 am »
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Quote from: chaos theory on 12 September 2008, 18:51:40 PM
here are the trend figures

The median subsale price (of non-landed private homes) continued to
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fall by 5 per cent quarter-on-quarter to $1,052 psf in Q2 after sliding 8 per cent in Q1 and 4 per cent in Q4 2007. ‘This was due to fewer high-end units being transacted in the subsale market as well as slight price corrections. Owners are now more realistic in asking prices,’ DTZ said.
Median subsale prices of Citylights and The Sail @ Marina Bay were $1,100 psf and $1,810 psf respectively in Q2 2008, down about 2 and 14 per cent respectively from Q1.



Wait for the URA data to be released. You will be in for a big dissapointment.

Agent troll told us to wait for the URA data and here it is. Note this is BEFORE the big financial crash yesterday.

Private home sales in Singapore slumped 81 per cent in August from a year ago, to the lowest level since March as a combination of global financial turmoil and a traditionally unlucky month spooked buyers.

Sales of new residential projects, comprising both houses and apartments, fell to 320 units from 1,723 units sold in August last year, and sales were also down 64 per cent from the 901 units taken up in July 2008, government data showed on Monday.
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« Reply #146 on: 16 September 2008, 9:02:51 am »
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Quote from: chaos theory on 12 September 2008, 18:51:40 PM
here are the trend figures

The median subsale price (of non-landed private homes) continued to
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fall by 5 per cent quarter-on-quarter to $1,052 psf in Q2 after sliding 8 per cent in Q1 and 4 per cent in Q4 2007. ‘This was due to fewer high-end units being transacted in the subsale market as well as slight price corrections. Owners are now more realistic in asking prices,’ DTZ said.
Median subsale prices of Citylights and The Sail @ Marina Bay were $1,100 psf and $1,810 psf respectively in Q2 2008, down about 2 and 14 per cent respectively from Q1.



Wait for the URA data to be released. You will be in for a big dissapointment.

Agent troll told us to wait for the URA data and here it is. Note this is BEFORE the big financial crash yesterday.

Private home sales in Singapore slumped 81 per cent in August from a year ago, to the lowest level since March as a combination of global financial turmoil and a traditionally unlucky month spooked buyers.

Sales of new residential projects, comprising both houses and apartments, fell to 320 units from 1,723 units sold in August last year, and sales were also down 64 per cent from the 901 units taken up in July 2008, government data showed on Monday.


Wait for  URA price data and not sale figures idiot. Even if you look at sales figures, the number of units sold far exceeded no of units launched.
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« Reply #147 on: 16 September 2008, 9:23:04 am »
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Wait for  URA price data and not sale figures idiot. Even if you look at sales figures, the number of units sold far exceeded no of units launched

The nice thing about being on an expat forum is "we love losers too"  Ok so you screwed up and you blew your whole families life savings on your pissant aspirations to become the next Richard Branson by buying Singapore property in 2007.


Thats OK. You just need to face the Aunties and Uncles and admit you are a loser. Then you can get on with life. We will still love you because you give us a reason to laugh and visit this message board when we are feeling down.

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« Reply #148 on: 16 September 2008, 11:41:23 am »
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Wait for  URA price data and not sale figures idiot. Even if you look at sales figures, the number of units sold far exceeded no of units launched

The nice thing about being on an expat forum is "we love losers too"  Ok so you screwed up and you blew your whole families life savings on your pissant aspirations to become the next Richard Branson by buying Singapore property in 2007.


Thats OK. You just need to face the Aunties and Uncles and admit you are a loser. Then you can get on with life. We will still love you because you give us a reason to laugh and visit this message board when we are feeling down.


I am still sleeping soundfully with beautiful dreams every night. Relax, no need to get excited. What's the big deal if your dream never comes true.Hope the following article will not break your heart. Prices are still stubbornly holding steady. When will they crash? You just keep waiting ok.

August home sales dive; prices steady

Developers put off launches while buyers wait out Hungry Ghost month

By UMA SHANKARI


SALES of new homes fell sharply in August as developers held back launches and buyers waited out the slow Hungry Ghost month amid global turmoil.


Some hope: In August, mass market homes continued to fare better. At Hong Realty's Livia (above), some 32 units were sold at a median price of $659 psf while in the upmarket Ritz-Carlton Residences one unit transacted at above $3,500 psf




The number of new homes sold fell sharply to 320, down 64.3 per cent from the 897 homes sold in July this year. The number of home sales in August 2008 was also down 81.4 per cent from the peak of 1,720 units sold in August 2007 at the height of the property boom.

But interestingly, the number of purchases outstripped the number of units launched by developers for the first time since April. Developers launched just 194 units in August - the lowest number over the past one year. Even in February this year, when just 185 homes were sold, developers rolled out 343 new units.

Expecting lacklustre numbers for the Hungry Ghost month, developers held back their launches, noted one property insider. 'If more projects had been launched, sales would probably have been better,' he said.
The Hungry Ghost month, widely deemed to be an unlucky period for homebuying, fell in August this year. However, this taboo has been ignored in past years during property booms.

Developers could also have used the month as an opportunity to hold back launches as they wait for the market sentiment to improve, said Nicholas Mak, director of research and consultancy at Knight Frank.

But most property analysts generally agreed that August's numbers were not as bad as feared.
'When you consider that there was a lack of launches and a lack of advertising, the sale numbers were not that bad,' said DBS Vickers' property analyst Adrian Chua. 'I was pleasantly surprised.'
Prices also appear to be holding steady - for now.

'Surprisingly, prices are still holding up,' said CIMB analyst Donald Chua. 'But if volumes continue to be so thin, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some price cuts.'

Volumes continued to be low, especially in the high-end segment. In August, just three units were transacted at above $3,500 per square foot (psf) - two units from Nassim Park Residences and one from The Ritz-Carlton Residences Singapore Cairnhill. Another five units were sold for between $3,000-$3,500 psf.

Mass market homes continued to fare better. 'Despite having no new launches in this month, the outside central region (OCR) recorded a total transaction of 89 units,' pointed out Chua Yang Liang, head of research for South-east Asia at Jones Lang LaSalle.

At Hong Realty's Livia, for example, some 32 units were sold at a median price of $659 psf. Another 15 units were sold in Guoco- Land's The Quartz at a median price of $725 psf.

Looking ahead, a slight increase in sales volume is anticipated for September. But market watchers should not expect a large pick-up in numbers, analysts warned. 'The stock market is still getting hammered,' noted Mr Mak. 'And it's the middle of September, but we haven't seen any major launches yet.'

Developers' cautious sentiment can be expected to continue into next year.

'As more bad news unfolds from the western financial institutions, we would expect developers to turn more cautious and perhaps delay launches further until clarity is improved in the first half of 2009,' said Ku Swee Yong, director of marketing and business development at Savills Singapore.

Echoed Li Hiaw Ho, executive director at CBRE Research: 'For the rest of the year, the mood of the market is likely to maintain the status quo as the market remains wary of a weakening in the global economic environment.'

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« Reply #149 on: 16 September 2008, 12:01:02 pm »
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the reason prices are steady for NOW is they are NO buyers ie demand and the prices has alraedy fallen by 20% and the market is absorbing residual demand.

The delaying of launches and developers not reducing prices is just adding fuel to a massive bon fire of inventory.
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