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Kubes.SG
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« on: 14 September 2008, 8:29:15 am »

Here is a challenge for the smart people here.  What does this image mean?

What it is will be posted very quickly no doubt,  but what does this image really mean for us all?

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« Reply #1 on: 14 September 2008, 9:46:21 am »

Tell us O great one
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« Reply #2 on: 14 September 2008, 10:01:25 am »

This is a picture of the sun. Note the absence of spots.
This flawless complexion indicates that the sun is entering on a period of low activity, referred to by many as Years of the Quiet Sun.
It can be expected that global temperatures will FALL as a result.
This means that the spin doctors for the Global Warming scam will find increased employment as the facts will not fit their expensively generated computer models of the future climate
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« Reply #3 on: 14 September 2008, 10:26:27 am »

It means the Co2 theory of global warming is pretty well dead. Now, what can we do about clawing back some of the billions spent on Kyoto by reckless politicians?
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« Reply #4 on: 14 September 2008, 10:30:16 am »

Bush was right not to sign?
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« Reply #5 on: 14 September 2008, 10:49:57 am »

Don't think it's the sun. I reckon it's the moon, as in moon festival. And it looks like it's shrouded by haze a bit, which probably are the points that Kubester is trying to make.
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« Reply #6 on: 14 September 2008, 10:53:45 am »

The only indisputable fact is that the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has been rising for over 200 rears. There is disagreement about almost everything else. Bush was right.
The only effects of the Kyoto Protocol that I can see are " Carbon Credits" “ biofuels”, “ Offsetting” and wind and solar power.
These are scams. The first is a way of taxing industries that burn coal rather than oil and gas. The second is a way for farmers in the US and agribusiness in the rest of the world to rake in enormous subsidies while impoverishing both the environment and third world farmers.
Offsetting is a way to get rich travellers to pay people who would have planted trees anyway to say they will plant more.
Both wind and solar power are intermittent and expensive, propped up only by state subsidies.

The money is already gone. No way to get it back.
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« Reply #7 on: 14 September 2008, 10:56:06 am »

a ping pong ball (or whiff whaff.....)

Ping pong balls have no noticeable scientific relation to global warming.
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« Reply #8 on: 14 September 2008, 12:46:49 pm »

Old Mike - there is money to be made with wind power when oil is parked in the 100+$/bbl range. If you're slagging it with your comment, you should look into the numbers. No tax credits are required to make it work. That's a bit of gravy for the early adopters.

So - if temperatures don't fall as a result of the 11 year solar cycle minimum, what conclusions do you draw?
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« Reply #9 on: 14 September 2008, 12:57:41 pm »

The beginning of Universe
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« Reply #10 on: 14 September 2008, 13:04:48 pm »

 an egg yolk Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: 14 September 2008, 13:29:07 pm »

its what Kubes's one brain cell looks under the microscope.
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« Reply #12 on: 14 September 2008, 14:54:55 pm »

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If you're slagging it with your comment, you should look into the numbers. No tax credits are required to make it work.

Not according to my calculations. If you install a 1 MW wind turbine it will produce power at best 30% of the time. Nor can you predict when the wind will blow. This is fine if you can sell that power to a big grid when the wind is blowing. But for the other 70% of the time you have to generate power from conventional sources.
The thing that makes it uneconomic is the enourmous cost of storing electricity.To provide 1 MW continuously you would have to install 3MW and a pumped storage or flow battery to store the power when the wind drops.
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« Reply #13 on: 14 September 2008, 15:08:26 pm »

It is not an egg yoke, brain cell or a golden ping pong ball.  Nor the big bang flash at the point of the universe's creation.  It is the body of matter that is the primary cause for warming and cooling of Earth and all the other planets in our solar system - our sun.

As usual Old Mike, is absolutely correct.  The significant issue with the beautiful image is that their are no sunspots.  The sun has been in an extended period of reduced activity with few to no sunspots, starting about 18 months ago and it has not restarted.  As a result 2007 saw rapid decline in global temperatures on earth, as has 2008 to date.  Sunspot activity was very high during the 30 years from the mid 1970s which caused virtually all the global warming that was recorded.  There was also warming of Mars, Saturn and all the other planets in the solar system.

Despite all the panic and hysteria about man-made global warming, and CO2 being a key cause have been unjustified.  The billions spent, and the trillions that are planned to be spent on utterly futile attempts to control natural weather and climate changes are totally wasted.  The facts, science and data prove conclusively that the arguments for CO2. Kyoto, and man-made Global Warming to be a scam and lie.

If the sun stays in this low-activity cycle, we are looking at a future that is much more dire than the Global Warming Alarmists could ever dream up.
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« Reply #14 on: 14 September 2008, 15:23:48 pm »

Bush was right not to sign?

No.

Global warming may be the latest initiative to generate taxes from a public too willing to give for such a flawed cause but we still need to curb pollution; we need to take better care of our environment, flora and fauna.

We need more fish, fresh water, green forests...all of which require agreed controls or curbs on our conduct and consumption. This is anathema to Bush and mainstream USA where the people are employees of a great corporation, not citizens of a nation, and the bottom line is your own.
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