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« Reply #45 on: 30 January 2009, 10:45:49 am » |
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 Thanks for that site, but there goes my entire Friday! There is some comedy gold there! How can people actually be so stupid in the face of clear, proven, scientific evidence. You're not really using a website that claims the earth is 6,000 years of as a source, are you? It is actually quite difficult for me to hide my complete and utter contempt for someone who would hold such a view -- unless it was overwhelmed by the pity I felt for any children they had in their care.
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« Reply #46 on: 30 January 2009, 12:40:35 pm » |
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This is becoming disappointingly dull. Pahu is a creationist troll, incapable of engaging in any kind of lively and interesting debate, he'll just continue to copy and paste pages from his favourite young earth creationist website. God Himself only know what he's doing on an expat site- shouldn't he be off spamming Talkorigins?
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« Reply #47 on: 30 January 2009, 19:16:21 pm » |
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Pahu, you previously go on about the lack of fossil evidence as an argument against evolution - and then you suddenly start saying that fossilisation is due to a sudden, catastrophic, worldwide flood.
If that were the case, we should be knee-deep in fossils.
Please make up your mind.
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« Reply #48 on: 08 February 2009, 13:45:09 pm » |
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This is well worth a listen. First aired on Sunday morning. http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/heart_and_soul. shtml
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« Reply #49 on: 12 February 2009, 2:57:54 am » |
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 Thanks for that site, but there goes my entire Friday! There is some comedy gold there! How can people actually be so stupid in the face of clear, proven, scientific evidence. You're not really using a website that claims the earth is 6,000 years of as a source, are you? Yes. The scientific evidence presented indicates the earth is probably no older than 10,000 years. It is actually quite difficult for me to hide my complete and utter contempt for someone who would hold such a view -- unless it was overwhelmed by the pity I felt for any children they had in their care. The Bible genealogies used by some to set the age of the earth at 6,000 years is not scientific, nor necessarily accurate. The scientific evidence for around 10,000 years is more compelling.
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« Reply #50 on: 12 February 2009, 3:09:09 am » |
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Pahu, you previously go on about the lack of fossil evidence as an argument against evolution - and then you suddenly start saying that fossilisation is due to a sudden, catastrophic, worldwide flood.
If that were the case, we should be knee-deep in fossils.
Please make up your mind.
You only understand half of what I have shared. We are knee deep in fossils, but what is missing are transitional fossils from one species to another, which evolution demands. We should be neck deep in those.
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« Reply #51 on: 12 February 2009, 3:11:16 am » |
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Parallel Strata
The earth’s sedimentary layers are typically parallel to adjacent layers. Such uniform layers are seen, for example, in the Grand Canyon and in road cuts in mountainous terrain. Had these parallel layers been deposited slowly over thousands of years, erosion would have cut many channels in the topmost layers. Their later burial by other sediments would produce nonparallel patterns. Because parallel layers are the general rule, and the earth’s surface erodes rapidly, one can conclude that almost all sedimentary layers were deposited rapidly relative to the local erosion rate—not over long periods of time. Fossils crossing two or more sedimentary layers (strata) are called poly- (many) strate (strata) fossils. [Fossil trees are found worldwide crossing two or more strata]…Had burial been slow, the treetops would have decayed. Obviously, the trees could not have grown up through the strata without sunlight and air. The only alternative is rapid burial. Some polystrate trees are upside down, which could occur in a large flood. Soon after Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980, scientists saw trees being buried in a similar way in the lake-bottom sediments of Spirit Lake. Polystrate tree trunks are found worldwide. http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeSciences26.html#wp1009156
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« Reply #52 on: 12 February 2009, 17:17:27 pm » |
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Of course there may be some rapid sedimentation due to floods, etc. There have been major floods throughout history, and in modern times, too. But to say that this is the main cause, or that it once happened across the entire Earth, is rather a big assumption.
If you're saying that sedimentation is due to one massive flood, then I wonder why there should be much layering. Layering occurs over time, certainly more time than the 40 days and nights of Noah.
Also, I'd disagree that we're knee deep in fossils. To find a new fossil deposit is considered a big deal by paleontologists. If we were knee deep in the stuff, we'd consider it more of a nuisance than a cause for scientific celebration.
I'd rather Christians just said that they believe in God, that God is all-powerful, and that whatever odd stuff we find in our scientific endeavors is just God doing His thing, so no point looking for convoluted scientific "explanations".
We could then happily stop arguing and leave the Christians to their churches, and keep their beliefs out of our schools (but, of course, all the pseudo-science is just to get a hold on the schools and the minds of our kids).
Come on, just bite the theological bullet, Pahu!
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« Reply #53 on: 13 February 2009, 12:02:54 pm » |
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« Reply #54 on: 13 February 2009, 12:34:35 pm » |
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So predictable. Focus on a snapshot of the fossil record as it exists today and ignore the progress of discover over time. Point out the gaps, and when those gaps are filled, point to other gaps (or just the smaller gaps remaining). Giant snore zzzzz....
Friday inquisition: who created the molecular evidence for evolution: Satan or Magic Beard Man?
Side note: Godhimself you are totally hot.
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Why would there be 3,5,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,18,19,or 20 celled organisms?
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« Reply #56 on: 14 February 2009, 3:57:27 am » |
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Because magic beard man says so!
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Why would there be 3,5,6,7,8,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,18,19,or 20 celled organisms?
Because the created does not have the right to question the creator.  Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.” “And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.”
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Kaypo, are you saying that the Lord merely potters around?
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« Reply #59 on: 17 February 2009, 20:13:22 pm » |
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Kaypo, are you saying that the Lord merely potters around?
Not really. Remember the Bible says that we are made from the dust of the Earth? Since the women are given the job to reproduce by giving birth after man's fall in Eden, maybe God has more time for gardening especially when He has finished creation in seven days? 
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