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« Reply #45 on: 19 May 2010, 10:56:37 am »

Sprout,

That is an interesting observation.  For some reason I am stuck on Happiness as a destination.  I would love it to be a way of life for me.  Still working on it, I guess!
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« Reply #46 on: 19 May 2010, 10:58:24 am »

We all wonder exactly 'how well' we are doing, and it is indeed interesting how taboo the dreaded 'net worth' topic is:

New York Times
May 10, 2010
Net-Worth Obsession

By RON LIEBER

Joey Kincer is the kind of guy who likes to keep records. Kincer is a 32-year-old Web developer who lives in San Juan Capistrano, southeast of Los Angeles, and among the things he tracks on his personal home page at kinless.com are his collection of action figures based on the Mega Man video games (“Not for sale,” the site warns sternly), the piano awards he received as a child (“My mom kept track of them all,” he says) and a photo gallery of female celebrity crushes that he refers to as his Dream Team.

His highest achievement in record gathering, however, is contained in a Quicken file, where he has tracked his personal finances for 16 years, ever since he was in 11th grade. On a recent Wednesday evening, Kincer punched a few buttons on a keyboard and projected his entire financial history onto a giant screen hanging from the ceiling of his bedroom for me to see. There was the $3.38 he spent on chips and dip on March 16, 1996. A birthday card for a friend a few weeks later cost $3.18. Deposits arrived in small amounts every couple of weeks thanks to a job playing piano at church.

This trove of data came in handy a few years ago when Kincer happened upon a Web site called NetworthIQ, which allows people to record their net worths and display the ups and downs for anyone to view. Most people who share their data do so anonymously, but Kincer posts a link to his personal Web site, where he uses his real name. Kincer especially liked that the site allowed him to compare himself with others. It appealed to the Mega Man player in him. “NetworthIQ is kind of a game,” he said. “Can I get ahead of everyone? Can I be up there with the big shots?”

Net worth is the number you get when you subtract what you owe from what you own. You start with things like cash on hand, retirement savings and home value and subtract your mortgage, as well as credit-card, student-loan and other debts. Net worth paints a bigger picture than income; it rewards the saver and reveals the drain that big borrowers put on their finances. And it vividly reminds people who think only in terms of monthly payments that their debts may be with them for a good long while.

Figuring net worth isn’t hard, and programs like Quicken make it especially easy. Mint.com, a popular personal-financial-management service, introduced a net-worth feature in 2008 that links to credit-card, brokerage and mortgage accounts. The real-time, intraday updates allow people to obsessively check in on the microscopic daily ups and downs of their personal wealth.

The net-worth number, as Kincer found, is more appealing when you have someone else’s to compare it with. We tend to have an intense curiosity about our neighbors and friends, especially those who seem to earn about what we do but spend a lot more. Do they skimp on retirement savings or their children’s college funds? Are they not burdened by student loans? Do they have a trust fund? Have they simply maxed out every credit card they can get their hands on? There’s no way to answer these questions without seeing a breakdown of net worth.

So it should come as no great surprise that the curious are turning up at NetworthIQ to see what other people’s money really looks like. “This was our way of making money a little more social,” said Todd Kalhar, one of the founding executive partners at NetworthIQ, which is now part of Strands, an online-media company whose moneyStrands site competes with Mint. “People had been talking about stocks forever. We wanted to add a bit more context. The guy talking about stocks might have been bankrupt 10 times.”

Joey Kincer’s net worth is about $201,000, much higher than the $120,000 median figure for U.S. families from 2007, the last year for which the Federal Reserve Board released household net-worth numbers. Among NetworthIQ users who, like him, earned no more than an associate’s degree, that makes him a big shot. But when he compares himself with all the people his age and all Californiaresidents, he’s just a bit above average.

He earns about $65,000 a year largely as a Web developer but is determined to save enough money for a substantial down payment on a detached house, not merely a condo or a town home. And he wants to live in a particular area of central Orange County, where housing prices, while lower than they once were, are still a bit beyond his means.

And so he lives with his parents, paying $700 a month and sleeping in his childhood bedroom. There is a Garfield clock on the wall, and above a twin bed is a photo gallery of the Dream Team, including photos of Daisy Fuentes and Hilary Duff in their younger days. He recently put much of his Mega Man memorabilia in storage. “I’m trying to make my room look less like a 10-year-old’s,” he said. It is perhaps not an ideal arrangement for a young, single man. But by living at home, he is able to save $1,500 to $2,000 each month, which allows his net worth to grow at a steeper trajectory than it would otherwise.

Most of the hand-wringing we do around money essentially comes down to two basic questions: How am I doing? And, Am I going to be O.K.? Net worth is a pretty good answer to the first question and, over time, it offers hints as to how things might ultimately turn out. It’s an easy number to calculate and satisfies the desire for a single numerical grade.

But does our almost irresistible urge to rank ourselves against others based on any available data serve as a source of inspiration? Or does it lead to endless striving in search of some ever-elusive achievement? “I think this is a profound problem, this aspect of humans in the West,” said Andrew Oswald, a professor of behavioral science at the Warwick Business School in England. “We’re now extraordinarily rich by almost any standard of human history. But because we are creatures of comparison, it’s harder to get happier and happier.”

Eric Mill wasn’t thinking about his happiness when he created a Web site called Ohnomymoney two years ago. He was thinking in part about societal taboos — and how to thumb his nose at them. The site shows five numbers: his credit-card and student-loan debt, his checking- and savings-account balances and his net worth, which is currently about negative $12,400. The site updates most of the figures automatically every day through a feed from Wesabe, another site, like Mint, that pulls data from personal financial accounts.

At the bottom of the Ohnomymoney home page, there are two sentences of explanation in a tiny font size: “This is Eric Mill’s money. This site made against the advice of everyone who loves him.”

What was their advice? “It’s something they don’t understand, so they assume that it’s risky,” Mill, who is 25, says. “My girlfriend. My family. One friend criticized it from a classiness perspective. He thought it was uncouth to display something like this, though at the time I had a net worth of negative $20,000, so it wasn’t like I was flaunting anything.”

What he was trying to do when he began the site in May 2008, he says, was start a conversation. Since March 2009, Mill has worked for the Sunlight Foundation, a Washington-based nonprofit group that tries to make government workings more transparent. His site turns that notion on himself. “The taboo around talking about money is ill-founded,” he says. “When you’re the only person dealing with it, you’re subject to all of the dysfunctions we all have. If we could all be a little less uptight and more communicative and social about it, we’d be getting better advice, and it wouldn’t be the sort of thing that we stress about privately.”

So Mill’s money is laid bare for the world to see. In the fall of 2008, he became a freelance Web developer. The timing could not have been worse. “I had $3,000 and no firm gigs,” he says, adding that at one point a potential client, after telling him that he had seen Mill’s negative net worth online, tried to lowball him on a job, letting him know that he assumed that Mill probably needed the money. “During that time, my emotional well-being was completely tied to the number in my savings account.”

It wasn’t a happy time, but during this period, Mill figured out how to feel comfortable handling his money. Mill now saves a quarter to half of his take-home pay in a savings account in an online bank, but he is not making as many extra payments as he could on the $20,000 or so in student loans he is carrying, nor does he have any money set aside for retirement. “I put a much higher value on flexibility,” he says. “And I feel like the better investment right now is in me. It’s much more important that I have as much freedom and liquidity as I can.”

Net worth is not precisely calibrated with financial freedom. If Mill used all of his savings to pay down some debt, his net-worth figure would remain the same, but he would have no emergency fund if he lost his job. For this reason, he has come to think of the figure as a number that doesn’t really tell his whole story.

Some financial advisers agree. “To me, it’s an irrelevant number,” says Spencer Sherman, author of “The Cure for Money Madness” and a founder and the chief executive of Abacus Wealth Partners. “If people have a billion in net worth and are spending half a billion in a year, they’re really poor.” After all, they’re on pace to be broke in 24 months. (Sherman’s preferred measure of financial health for retirees is a ratio that compares net worth, excluding home equity, with the amount of money people take from their portfolios each year. He generally doesn’t want clients spending more than 4 to 6 percent of their holdings annually.) Mill acknowledges that his philosophy of financial openness has its limits. “This would be hard for me to do if I was totally affluent,” Mill told me. He balked at revealing his salary for this article, even though some of his friends already know what it is. “I don’t want to cause any tension with my co-workers,” he says, allowing only that the figure was at the upper end of the midfive figures.

I talked to one NetworthIQ user, a South Florida woman, who has about $856,000 in net worth. She blogs about her financial life at adventures-of-sam.blogspot.com, but says she would never reveal her name on the site. She worries that doing so would inject tension into her offline life. Her friends might think she was bragging about her frugal habits or implicitly criticizing their spending. Indeed, talking about wealth or good fortune can seem coarse or boastful, and maybe some people don’t want poor relatives to know to what extent they could be helping — and aren’t.

When Stephanie Grant learned a few months ago that a decent-size income-tax refund was coming her way, she had already dropped out of school twice, run up $37,000 in debt from credit cards and student loans and was the divorced mother of 3-year-old twins. Hers is a catalog of the sort of financial pitfalls that can set young adults back for many years.

Rather than spend the tax refund on the Nintendo Wii she wanted, Grant, who is 31 and lives in Edina, Minn., put it toward paying off her debt. Then, she began tracking her net worth in public, in part to shame herself into sticking to a financial plan, and recorded her progress on a blog, superpositron.blogspot.com. She followed the debt-reduction system of the financial coach Dave Ramsey, paying the smallest loans off first to build momentum. And she posted her numbers on NetworthIQ after seeing a link to it from the forums on Ramsey’s Web site.

“I liked the number it came up with,” she says, noting that her net worth includes her $4,000 or so of retirement savings, the value of her car and her $1,000 emergency fund. “My assets actually made a difference. I don’t have much, but the negative number was less negative than it would have been without them.” This is a common revelation for financial novices: you are more than the sum of your debts.

Initially, the idea of laying herself bare on a blog and on NetworthIQ caused a lot of anxiety. “You’re saying I have a secret and here it is for everyone to see,” she says. “But once it’s out there, and especially now that it’s not just a flat line saying ‘negative $23,000,’ and it is moving up a little bit, there’s a sense of pride and accomplishment that goes along with that. I know people are visiting, and it makes me want to pay something else off so I can post another entry that’s something good.” She’s currently putting a third of her monthly take-home pay from her job as a benefits analyst toward debt payments.

All of this has led to some odd reversals in her life. She looks forward to getting her bills in the mail, for instance, because it means it’s time to update her total debt. “Which might be a little bit sick,” she said. “But I know it’s lower than the last month. I know it for a fact.”

Grant often wonders about the people who are far ahead of her in the NetworthIQ standings. Did they get lucky? Are they lottery winners? Or did they get smart about money before she did? She tries not to beat herself up over it. “For people with the same income as me but higher net worth, it tells me that I can get there, too. It just takes discipline,” she says. “I know it has only been a couple of months now, but I kind of feel like I’ve made a life change.”

She admits that some of her pleasure is fueled as much by competition as self-satisfaction. “I’m not that far off from the person right above me” on the NetworthIQ list, she says. “I can probably catch them this month. And maybe next month I can get to the next one.”

That attitude is familiar to Michael McBride, an economics professor at the University of California, Irvine. “We crave information, not just to outdo others but to know how we ourselves are doing,” says McBride, who has studied how people’s well-being is affected when they compare their incomes against those of others. “When I pass out tests, the first thing students want to know is what the mean was. They don’t know how to interpret their score unless they know how well others did.”

Oswald, the professor of behavioral science, says the craving for comparison may be rooted in our biology. “It’s easier said than done to break through two million years of evolution,” he says. “A million years ago, you could watch what others were doing and mimic that to get food and resources. Or if you were high up the monkey pack, you could get the best mates.”

But what, exactly, are we comparing? Numbers like net worth can become inadequate shorthand. “We use it for something it was never intended to be used for: a sense of self-worth and status,” Milo Benningfield, a financial planner in San Francisco, told me. He urges his clients to stop thinking about other people and think instead about what they want and need. “I tell them to think of this as a topography of the choices you’re making about how you’re spending your lives. The only question I have is whether these are the choices you want to be making as you move forward. I think that takes the pressure away from looking right and left to other people around you and focuses it on your own life goals and your own vision of success.”

Joey Kincer, the Web developer who still lives with his parents, has never had a negative net worth. He stayed employed throughout the recession and got a better job near the end of it.

But when the stock market collapsed in 2008 and early 2009, Kincer worried that the holy-grail number he tracked, his net worth, could drop. “My 401(k) was falling,” he says. “It was affecting my net worth, and I didn’t want to see it doing that, so I took other measures to make sure it stayed flat.” He spent less money on eating out, DVDs and electronics in order to keep that public net-worth figure from dipping.

This might seem like a joyless way to live, but Kincer doesn’t see it that way. “I’m social,” he says. “I have friends from all different branches of my life. But I don’t go out that much. If I have the choice to stay home and earn money, I’ll do that. I’ve seen just about every one of my friends struggle financially. They’re killing themselves, and I’m thinking to myself that I’m not going to live like that.”

Ron Lieber writes the Your Money column for The Times and helps oversee Bucks, a blog about personal finance.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: May 16, 2010


An article on Page 54 this weekend about personal net-worth comparisons misidentifies one of the factors typically used as an asset in such calculations. It is home value, not home equity.

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« Reply #47 on: 19 May 2010, 19:12:19 pm »

I think if people are looking for happiness in their own lives, a quick look at the teaching of Srikumar Rao might be enlightening.
The basic premise of his teachings on happiness is that people adopt an "if-then" mental-model in their search for happiness:
i.e.
if I am a millionaire, then I will be happy
if I make top grades in my exams, then I will be happy
if I make that promotion, then I will be happy
if I could get married, then I will be happy
if my wife/husband would divorce me, then I will be happy :-)

The flaw is in the model - anything you can get, you can "un-get" leaving you unhappy. The trick is to engage in the journey towards your goals and find happiness in the pursuit of happiness! He explains this much better so just look him up!

But to get back to the topic "The key to happiness - and it's not MONEY".
I think the reason people obsess over money is that it really is a good proxy for many types of success.
On a personal level, I hope to make a lot of money, since for me happiness is about success, and success amoung other things would be in:
- my career
- my own business
- my relationships with frends and family
- a balanced lifestyle between work and usually too much partying!

I am far from acheiving that success at the moment, but I think reaching these goals will bring with it plenty of money.

Money, for many people, a necessary, but not sufficient condition for happiness.
Perhaps not the key, but the alloys wheels of happiness....and who wants a car without alloy wheels...just not the same is it!

Be happy fellow forum members!
Vince

p.s. please don't shoot me down for my two cents...that would make me very unhappy!
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« Reply #48 on: 29 May 2010, 21:08:17 pm »

True, but the key to unhappiness is lack of money.
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« Reply #49 on: 22 August 2010, 13:05:45 pm »

Pinzon,

I don't agree with you.

Sophist,

If I understand your contribution (and it is a valuable one) correctly, what you are saying is that money is merely a manner of gauging success in whatever it is one does in life.

I would agree with you to the extent that money should not be the GOAL, that eventually success brings many rewards including money, fame, etc.   One caveat: the undertaking must be a virtuous one.
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« Reply #50 on: 27 January 2011, 8:22:49 am »

There is a debate in America at the moment to do with how to get the country back on track.  It will not begin to happen until we see more of this.  The blind pursuit of money for its own sake has led us over the cliff.  Only when we come back to basics will we stand a chance:

New York Times
January 26, 2011

Pitcher Says No Thanks to Sure $12 Million

By TYLER KEPNER

The guaranteed contract is a fundamental principle of Major League Baseball, as much a part of the game as balls, strikes and outs. No matter how a player performs, or how his body holds up, he must be paid in full. Only in rare cases — an injury sustained off the field, gross personal misconduct — does a player forfeit his paycheck.

But the case of Gil Meche is rare for an entirely different reason. Meche, a 32-year-old right-handed pitcher, had a contract that called for a $12 million salary in 2011. Yet he will not report to Surprise, Ariz., with the rest of the Kansas City Royals for spring training next month. He will not have surgery to repair his chronically aching right shoulder. He will not pitch in relief, where the workload is lighter.

Meche retired last week, which means he will not be paid at all.

“When I signed my contract, my main goal was to earn it,” Meche said this week, by phone from Lafayette, La. “Once I started to realize I wasn’t earning my money, I felt bad. I was making a crazy amount of money for not even pitching. Honestly, I didn’t feel like I deserved it. I didn’t want to have those feelings again.”

Meche’s decision plays against type — the modern athlete out for every last dollar. There have been, over the years, athletes who took less money to play for one team over another, Cliff Lee the latest. And yes, Ryne Sandberg retired from the Chicago Cubs in 1994, forgoing nearly $16 million.

But there are very few parallels to what Meche did.

Instead, it is much more common for an injured player to report to spring training, go through the motions of rehabilitation, and collect his paycheck. Lenny Dykstra played his last game in 1996, but did not announce his retirement until after the 1998 season, when the Philadelphia Phillies paid him $5.5 million. Mo Vaughn of the Mets made $15 million in 2004, even though an arthritic knee had ended his career the year before.

“In no way is it assumed that at the end of a deal a guy is expected to walk away if he can’t play,” said Jim Duquette, the former Mets general manager. “It’s just so odd and so rare. There was no way that we would have ever had a conversation like, ‘Hey, Mo, listen, you’re not able to play, so you should retire.’ ”

Sandberg, it turned out, returned in 1996 and essentially earned back some of the money he had left behind. And the novelty of Mark McGwire’s decision to retire from the St. Louis Cardinals with two years left on a contract worth $30 million was tarnished by his subsequent admission of steroid use.

“This isn’t about being a hero — that’s not even close to what it’s about,” Meche said this week. “It’s just me getting back to a point in my life where I’m comfortable. Making that amount of money from a team that’s already given me over $40 million for my life and for my kids, it just wasn’t the right thing to do.”

The Royals signed Meche to a five-year, $55 million free-agent contract before the 2007 season, when he made the American League All-Star team. He pitched well again the next season, but by mid-2009, his body started to crumble. He made nine starts last season without a victory.

Still, the Royals fully expected Meche to pitch in relief, and to pay him the $12 million — three times more than any other player on the team. If nothing else, they believed, Meche could be a positive influence for a young roster.

But Meche knew the Royals really signed him to start games and log innings. His deteriorating shoulder, surgically repaired twice in 2001, would not allow him to do that. As a divorced father of three, he believed his children — ages 7, 5 and 3 — needed him more than his teammates.

Meche told the Royals’ general manager, Dayton Moore, that he did not want any of the paycheck due him. No settlement, no buyout, no strings. The Royals had been roundly criticized for signing Meche in the first place — he was 55-44 with a 4.65 earned run average in six seasons for the Mariners — and Meche believed they had already paid him enough.

“He felt the organization had been very good to him, and he felt he needed to, not repay, but in his mind do the right thing,” Moore said. “I’m not saying that if a player decides to do his best and fulfill his contract that’s the wrong thing. But Gil did what he felt was right for him.”

Meche was raised in Lafayette, the hometown of the former Yankee Ron Guidry, his early pitching idol. His father, Fred, has owned a computer company for more than 35 years, and his mother, Linda, stayed home. Meche said he never had to worry about money, and his parents allowed him to focus on baseball.

Meche, who is 6 foot 3, was taller than most classmates as a boy, and threw a lot harder — 92 miles an hour by his junior season. But when illness sapped his strength as a senior at Scott (La.) High School, Meche figured pro scouts would turn away. He planned to attend Louisiana State until the Mariners surprised him with an $820,000 bonus offer. Meche accepted it, bought a GMC Yukon and, he said, paid for a lot of his teammates’ meals.

“We were confident he would regain his stuff and be a sleeper in the draft,” said Bryan Price, then the minor league pitching coordinator for the Mariners. “Gil always had great stuff, and he was very athletic.”

Meche rewarded the Mariners by reaching the majors by age 20. His shoulder soon broke down, and two surgeries cost him two seasons.

But he showed enough promise through 2006 to entice the Royals, who paid him $43 million through 2010.

The decision to leave was not easy, Meche said, but his hometown tugged at him. Meche is buying a house in Lafayette, near his parents and sisters and friends, and for now he lives in a 45-foot R.V. at a campground.

Much of his time, he said, will be spent on airplanes. Two of his children live in Phoenix with his ex-wife, and another lives in Texas. Meche spent time with all three children last week.

“I told them Daddy’s not going to play baseball anymore,” he said. “My little girl looked at me and said, ‘What do you mean?’ I said: ‘Well, Daddy’s been playing a long time. Daddy’s shoulder hurts.’ She kind of looked at me and went back to playing with the other two kids.”

There is no throwing program to struggle through anymore, no excitement to try to summon for a game that hurts too much to play. Baseball is over for Meche, who spent Monday night with family friends in Lafayette, eating gumbo, drinking beer, relaxing. He has no specific plans, except to settle in his hometown and see his children whenever he wants.

“He gave his heart and soul to his profession,” Moore said. “You only have so many throws in you.”

Meche knew he had none left, and he would not pretend otherwise. He said his dream in baseball was always simple — to pitch as long as he could — and now that he has achieved it, he needs nothing more.
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« Reply #51 on: 16 February 2011, 10:05:46 am »

Here we see a very real consequence of going down the path of consumerism and pursuit material status...this is a problem in ALL developed countries at this point in time.  Procreation now takes a back seat to 'being comfortable' - I wonder if this is really a desirable state of affairs:

No kids for now, say young couples

Some find it a financial burden to bring a child into the family.

Wed, Feb 16, 2011
Asione

By Gerrard Lai

THIS newly married couple - civil servant Stephanie Lim and her electrical-engineer husband, Mr Edwin Foo - will not hear the pitter patter of little feet in their house any time soon.

"We would like to spend more time with each other first.

It's also an added financial burden to bring a child into the family now," Ms Lim, 27, explained.

She and Mr Foo, 30, got married last November.

They plan to have a kid after two to three years, after they have had sufficient couple time and can afford the costs of child-rearing.

"Two children are ideal. We don't want to compromise on the attention we give to the children, if another child (comes along)," Mr Foo said.

They are among many young adults here who do not view having children as a top priority, due to the financial constraints, although most do eventually want kids. This was revealed in a poll conducted by I Love Children (ILC) in the last quarter of last year.

The parent-advocacy group interviewed 1,000 Singaporeans and permanent residents aged 21 to 39 to find out why many couples are not considering, or delaying, parenthood.

It found that 28 per cent of those polled viewed having a successful career as the No. 1 priority, whereas only 3 per cent felt having kids is top of their list.

Mrs Joni Ong, president of ILC, told the media yesterday that the top three factors cited by couples who are delaying having children were these: high financial costs; personal time as an opportunity cost; and career as a priority over children.

Interestingly, when asked if they will have kids if money is not a concern, only 39 per cent said yes. However, almost half of them will have children if they have a supportive spouse.

Ms H. Y. Xia, 28, a communications officer who has been married for five months to a process- engineer husband, believes that raising a child is a shared responsibility between husband and wife.

She said: "Spreading the load of involvement between us will also allow each to pursue other interests in our personal time."

She added that they intend to have a child in two years' time.

She fits the profile of more than half of the respondents - 64 per cent - who said they intend to have children. Of this group, most are newlyweds or are about to get married.

For these couples, the exorbitant cost of child-rearing ranks highly on their list of concerns.

Ms Lim said she has a friend who racked up almost $30,000 in hospital bills after giving birth to twins in December last year.

She said she was taken aback by the the large figure, even if the payment was partially offset by Medisave subsidies.

Aside from worrying about the costs of the delivery package and the grade of hospital wards, she said she is also concerned about any unforeseen circumstance that may drive up the costs.

Her sentiments echo what Mrs Ong believes are the common financial worries of couples.

The 51-year-old, who has five children, believes many childless couples are just too caught up in building their careers, accumulating more savings and enjoying "a hassle-free lifestyle".

However, she felt it is possible to attain "the balance between personal goals and having children" if one is nimble and adjusts one's goals.

Ms Lim and Mr Foo are those who are willing to do so. They will make compromises regarding career and personal time, in order to have children one day.

"We just want to be confident of being able to bring up our child in a good environment," Ms Lim said.

While they appreciate government subsidies for child-bearing, they think these are just bonuses and that they have to rely on their personal savings and prudent financial planning.

"Ultimately, we have to depend on ourselves for the upbringing of our kids," she said.
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« Reply #52 on: 17 February 2011, 0:04:02 am »

indeed, money is not the key to happiness. As long as you are not greedy (pretty much is a deadly sin) and that you have a job/business on which you earn enough to pay the bills and have some extra for expensive/inexpensive hobby or to support your family . . .

i have a job back home that's pretty much commensurate for my daily life and my travels, and an opportunity to earn a much higher salary was at stake. Yet, I chose not to pursue it because of the nature of the job, pretty much being on call 24 hrs a day, and vacation leaves may have the possibility of not pushing thru as you are the only person in that position. So yeah, I chose not to pursue the career, but at least I have a life that I thoroughly enjoy. Smiley

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« Reply #53 on: 31 March 2011, 14:43:33 pm »

I believe if you are truely comfortable and happy with who you are then then the right life will come to you.

Live in the 'now', stop regretting the past and anylising the future to great extent.

Dont compromise on any of the fundermentals you have always believed in for yourself

Money will always make life easier and much more enjoyable.... as long as the above can be achieved.
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« Reply #54 on: 01 April 2011, 11:43:03 am »

SaraVal,

"...Dont compromise on any of the fundermentals you have always believed in for yourself..."

What I often find is that what one person considers fundamental differs markedly from another's. 

Therein lies the rub....
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« Reply #55 on: 01 April 2011, 20:27:55 pm »

In the real world money is a key to happiness. It doesn't mean that you need to be rich but it is sure as hell is not the epitome of happiness to rummage through garbage looking for something to eat for the family.
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« Reply #56 on: 08 January 2012, 20:02:45 pm »

Money certainly can bring some happiness in your life.
My 2 cents.
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