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« Reply #45 on: 02 August 2010, 12:26:40 pm »
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but he wants me back and wants to work on the relationship...am torn and still grieving

Why bother posting here ?

You've been given advice, but obviously only want to hear what you want to hear ?

Simple.... move along ! He obviously has a preference for the local talent. (Can't blame him for that though)
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« Reply #45 on: 02 August 2010, 12:26:40 pm »
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« Reply #46 on: 02 August 2010, 12:46:36 pm »
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I am a young, attractive, local talent (to quote "get over it") dating a successful white guy in 30s - and no I'm not after his money or anything. I'm self sufficient and a working professional.

Am wondering if anyone has forgiven and continued to work on a relationship with a cheating partner?

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« Reply #47 on: 02 August 2010, 13:16:15 pm »
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Am wondering if anyone has forgiven and continued to work on a relationship with a cheating partner?

Once a cheater, always a cheater. If your willing to live with that fact and are always thinking what they are out doing, then by all means.

I wouldn't waste my time though.
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« Reply #48 on: 02 August 2010, 13:32:58 pm »
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Am wondering if anyone has forgiven and continued to work on a relationship with a cheating partner?

Once a cheater, always a cheater. If your willing to live with that fact and are always thinking what they are out doing, then by all means.

I wouldn't waste my time though.

am with redacted on those comments. there are plenty of other fish  out there. or you can also be happier (with peace of mind) alone==== why bother to torture yourself?



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« Reply #49 on: 02 August 2010, 13:52:11 pm »
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I am a young, attractive, local talent (to quote "get over it") dating a successful white guy in 30s - and no I'm not after his money or anything. I'm self sufficient and a working professional.

Am wondering if anyone has forgiven and continued to work on a relationship with a cheating partner?



Ahhh !! Another notch on the trophy belt.
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of course they have
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« Reply #50 on: 02 August 2010, 19:50:28 pm »
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Lots of people give it a second go (I probably wouldn't but you don't really know until it happens).

If you are a local you should be more than aware of this, maybe less this generation but turning a blind eye as a wife in Singapore was standard practice.
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« Reply #51 on: 02 August 2010, 22:08:40 pm »
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Realistically - ohmy, young local women are highly sought after for the purpose of trophies?
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« Reply #52 on: 02 August 2010, 22:20:51 pm »
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Lots of people give it a second go (I probably wouldn't but you don't really know until it happens).

If you are a local you should be more than aware of this, maybe less this generation but turning a blind eye as a wife in Singapore was standard practice.

"giving it a second go" really depends on your own threshold of tolerance and comfort level. except (hopefully) you'd have your eyes fully wide open this time round.

ultimately, a gamble that could go either way.
1) make the relationship, trust-issues and communication stronger
2) re-awaken you to the warning signs each time it happens (in the case of 'once a cheater, always a cheater' types). it's probably in their natural defence-mechanism to look for an escape route or immediate gratification, whenever life-things get tough.

'turning a blind eye' worked in many traditional cultures.
especially in social circles where it was-is important to maintain status quo. be it for f'ace', or security (husband is the sole meal ticket for years) with no other support system in place.

in Asian culture: wives of previous generations too often thought-think this is their 'destiny' in life and maintain status quo for various 'face' (and financial) reasons.

i still encounter this mindset sometimes in educated (ie with a university degree) women from the more traditional, but paternalistic cultures (China, Taiwan, Korea for eg). you'd think they'd be more emanicipated. what is a scary thought is when they are in their 30s-40s (and raising daughters themselves) === a familial line from such women would be: "my husband says" ..... Roll Eyes

having affairs or keeping another on the side is still quite acceptable in modernistic HK (and China) as well - just check out the society tabloids. in addition, there is always a ready bevy of starlets in the movie and model industry who do not mind. materialism reigns supreme.
if the husband is still providing as usual, often the wife doesn't bat an eyelid unless his affair makes her 'lose face'' (ie becomes too public).

in Asian culture: wives of previous generations too often thought this was their 'destiny' in life and maintained status quo for various 'face' (and financial) reasons. often they weren't strong enough to leave (and face stigma from society or other social challenges), or had reservations when children are involved, or not willing to duke it out themselves.
so they stayed on stoically in long expired and dead marriages. in sadly in some cases - abusive marriages as well.

even in the Western private school crowd ... it is NOT hard to see educated (retired) 'trophy ladies who do tennis and lunch'  and 'people who throw scintillating parties and dinner' = ie established first wives who are too used to their clubs, teacup chihuahuss and Yoga lifestyles to want to rock the boat. they often turn a blind eye too, if the opposition is NOT too threatening.

and sadly, there are always willing single girls who don't mind being the 3rd wheel.

in the West: i personally knew of a professor-head of department, with grown children who are professionals. wife is another professor, in the same related department. he has been engaged in an ongoing affair with a PhD student/asst.lecturer student for years. gradnfatherly type of guy. apparently, it was quite an open secret when we were undergraduates. wife lives with the fact. husband and wife have quite an amicable relationship actually, you'd never know. I wouldn't have guessed, except i'd bumped into them a couple of times in restaurants (the non-family type) and started noticing.


:"happy families"
aren't always what they seem. it's amazing how often i am hit on the head with the realisation: life's a stage.


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« Reply #53 on: 02 August 2010, 22:28:14 pm »
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I supposed your analysis pretty covers from all angles - guess a man pushing 40s will always want to be put on a pedestal by women, especially by younger flighty asian women who will . I guess I should stop deluding myself that he does actually want to pursue a committed relationship (and by committed relationship - I've never been the pushy one) with me..help on the psyche of men in that boat?

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« Reply #54 on: 02 August 2010, 23:01:02 pm »
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guess a man pushing 40s will always want to be put on a pedestal by women, especially by younger flighty asian women who will .


i don't think this is true of men who are grounded and secure.
what is ironic is to see powerful men (that is, those who have already risen) who still need that adulation.
what is also amusing (and pathetic) is to see established men name-drop (i was at some dinner with a bunch of local uncles. well-off, and all established in their own right. 'establishe'd enough to feel invincibly secure anyway, or so you think. and the name-dropping and one-upmanship ... OMG!  Roll Eyes
"i golfed with so and so the other day" ...
not to be outdone another goes: "i had lunch with XXX yesterday." or do you know who's buying up what,where? (read: ahhhh i am in the know, and i have more clout with the right crowd, do you?) and so it goes on.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

and you'd think only  the insecure b*tchy women need to do this with their designer accessories, clothing and jewellery, ro children's achievements.

methinks it's only men who have vanity, ego issues or are basically insecure who need being put on that pedestal. very sad are the established powerful males with autonomy who have it all, and yet .... still need to be on the pedestal. (ahh so ... what is lacking?? or what deprivation-dysfunction in childhood has not been addressed?")

i have met pretty cool (and maybe not so established, but securely intact) men who don't seem to need to prove anything.

maybe if the hero-worship adulation and flattery (empty or not) keeps coming == these types start believing they ARE heros??? (or do imaginary inches start growing?)    Tongue  Lips sealed
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« Reply #55 on: 03 August 2010, 8:43:35 am »
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Superficial -> you're spot on..the constant name dropping etc - I guess I should have been wiser.

Still rather lost and confused about whether to give it another go though.
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wake up
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« Reply #56 on: 03 August 2010, 14:44:42 pm »
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move on. life is short.
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« Reply #57 on: 03 August 2010, 15:15:53 pm »
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how do I break the news to him?
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« Reply #58 on: 15 August 2010, 15:42:53 pm »
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True story.

Last week the wife of one of the expat MDs with a bank stormed into the office with a tennis racket looking for the man's colleague she thinks the husband is having an affair with.

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Here's Hoping
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« Reply #59 on: 17 August 2010, 23:48:21 pm »
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Here's hoping she caught the little trollop and gave her a thorough hiding!
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