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« on: 01 February 2011, 21:56:22 pm » |
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We've just handed back apartment to the landlord.
The apartment is old and some of the lighting fixtures are dodgy. We paid for an electrician to come in and sort out some of the lighting connections (they were so old, they crumbled when we tried to change some of the bulbs) when we first moved in. On leaving the apartment, there were some light bulbs that could not be changed as they were fused to the fittings.
Our contract says we should pay for the first $150 for any repairs. We didn't do anything to damage the lighting fixtures and, on leaving, left new replacement light bulbs. I maintain the wiring is old. The agent says I need to arrange to fix the lighting points.
What should I do? You advice greatly appreciated.
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« on: 01 February 2011, 21:56:22 pm » |
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« Reply #2 on: 02 February 2011, 12:13:21 pm » |
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While not fair you are likely stuffed.
When you move in there is normally a grace period when you can get stuff fixed, should have raised it then. Two years later and the problem is probably yours I'm afraid.
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« Reply #3 on: 03 February 2011, 16:28:01 pm » |
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« Reply #4 on: 03 February 2011, 20:15:46 pm » |
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Thanks for your replies.
Think it's a bit unfair but will see when agent gets back to me what the electrician's verdict is. We've rented numerous properties in a few countries over the last 20 years and never had problems like this before regarding lighting. I think the agent's trying to squeeze us so he looks good to the landlord.
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« Reply #5 on: 04 February 2011, 9:27:57 am » |
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The post made sense before the bm censored it. Vulcans suggestion on another thread was for consumer affairs problems, take a photo |
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« Reply #6 on: 05 February 2011, 3:09:28 am » |
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We have a similar problem. We have quite shoddy downlights which fuse because the bulbs get quite hot and the fixtures are cheap an nasty.
We have tried to get the problem fixed but the same problem keeps reoccuring (the LL suggested that we turn the lights off in the evening every hour for 10 minutes to let the lights cool down!).
We have a clause in our lease that states that the wiring is the LLs responsibility so that is what we will argue when it comes time to move that the light fixture is part of the wiring.
Let us know how you go with your LL.
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« Reply #7 on: 05 February 2011, 10:33:46 am » |
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In Singapore, a tenant's responsibility is to pay sufficient rent so that the landlord can service his mortgage to the bank.
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« Reply #8 on: 05 February 2011, 11:04:42 am » |
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We have a similar problem. We have quite shoddy downlights which fuse because the bulbs get quite hot and the fixtures are cheap an nasty.
We have tried to get the problem fixed but the same problem keeps reoccuring (the LL suggested that we turn the lights off in the evening every hour for 10 minutes to let the lights cool down!).
We have a clause in our lease that states that the wiring is the LLs responsibility so that is what we will argue when it comes time to move that the light fixture is part of the wiring.
Let us know how you go with your LL.
I am always amazed at how these renovators and builders show little regard for safety and couldnt care less if the building burned down as a result of their shoddy workmanship. |
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« Reply #9 on: 21 February 2011, 9:56:14 am » |
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Well, 1 month after handover, haven't heard anything from the landlord or agent and have my deposit back in full so guess the agent concedes it's not my responsibility afterall and I can forget about them. And to my great pleasure the place is still empty!! Hahahahhaa. I'm not really evil but they're really being greedy.
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« Reply #10 on: 22 February 2011, 14:21:40 pm » |
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its people like you that give us expats a bad name. you broke it you pay for it and stop trying to rip off the poor landlord!
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« Reply #11 on: 22 February 2011, 18:52:18 pm » |
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its people like you that give us expats a bad name. you broke it you pay for it and stop trying to rip off the poor landlord!
But he / she did not break it, therefore the responsibility lies with the landlord. We, expats do not have a bad name BTW. The LL's want us in their units/ houses as they get top rental from corporate companies with little or no hassle. |
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« Reply #12 on: 22 February 2011, 20:43:32 pm » |
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petty sum of less tha $150 is payable by the tenant. It's in any standard contract. Try to rent a new and more expensive place the next time. Less hassle then!
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« Reply #13 on: 23 February 2011, 6:05:33 am » |
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petty sum of less tha $150 is payable by the tenant. It's in any standard contract. Try to rent a new and more expensive place the next time. Less hassle then!
it varies on the type of property, and quality of appliances-finishings-furnishing you get. if everything is relatively more expensive ... it can be $200-300 payable by tenant. |
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« Reply #14 on: 23 February 2011, 10:17:14 am » |
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petty sum of less tha $150 is payable by the tenant. It's in any standard contract. Try to rent a new and more expensive place the next time. Less hassle then!
it varies on the type of property, and quality of appliances-finishings-furnishing you get. if everything is relatively more expensive ... it can be $200-300 payable by tenant. the payment of the first small amount by the tenant really depends on the landlord and the tenant at the time the agreement is sign, hence it is really negotiable. Some landlords do not really care about the actual amount. They look at what is the right thing to do and what is reasonable to decide with the tenant on who should pay for these minor amounts. They view these tenant payable amounts as a filter for the distractions than arise over time. You get all kinds of landlords, the OP landlord eventually ignored the tenant's payable part and gave him the full deposit back. Legally, the OP is liable. |
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