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Just another mum
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« on: 03 June 2011, 19:29:02 pm »
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Help! I know I need to loose some weight (yeah for the trolls I'm one of those flabby expat wives) but am I the only person out there who is battling with this and not winning?

Admittedly I am not good on the exercising front, although I do swim a lot,  but I have tried nearly all the diets out there with different degrees of success and failure but when I go back to normal eating it's back to square one.

I'm going to a wedding in 2 months and would love to look fab and apart from lipo, ladies or men any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: 03 June 2011, 20:22:11 pm »
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98% of diets fail = fact   Otherwise, Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig et al would have gone out of business years ago ...

The only permanent weight loss solution is surgery - anything less is just yo-yo dieting.

Calories in < calories out!  It's the only way - you either need to eat less or move more. 

Slimming massage, and any of the other crackpot ideas are just that - crackpot ideas!

Anything else I can help you with?
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same here
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« Reply #2 on: 03 June 2011, 20:46:46 pm »
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  I could have written this post--same situation. Turned 40 and can't seem to lose the weight. I truly wish there was a weight watchers here or some sort of support group. Will welcone ideas also!!
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« Reply #3 on: 03 June 2011, 21:47:43 pm »
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I  moved here 10 years ago and despite having a gym and pool at the condo I weigh 1lb less than I did back then!

Basically dislike exercise and like eating and drinking...........no excuses, I'm afraid that's just the way it is.

I have tried to lose weight many times and despite some success for a time, it always bounces back up to the same weight again (I did read somewhere once that people have a weight that their body is used to being at and it is very difficult for them to get lower than it).

Dieted earlier this year, lost about 4lb and despite giving up drinking and introducing calorie counting, I didn't shift any more than that.  I'm going to try again after this weekend and see if I can get to my first goal (which is only about 6lb lower than my usual weight!).

I used to swim 2 miles per week and it did absolutely nothing to shift any weight, nor did I feel any fitter.........I really can't understand why.  I did feel a bit better in myself just because I'd achieved a mile twice per week but that was the only noticeable difference (I kept this up for about 6 months - you would think I would have seen some kind of change but I'm afraid I didn't).

If I ate a diet like Gillian McKeith's I'm sure I'd lose weight but I don't know many people who could realistically stick to something like that.

I think 'whole truth' is partly right with surgery, but I know a few people who've had it and they still have to be careful with what they eat.

The British Club used to do a diet group but you probably have to be a member to go.  There are also those half hour 3 x per week exercise places (there are a couple of different ones so I can't name names) - they will give you some support but going 3x per week gets tedious if you're not into exercise (I stuck with that for a year and same story - no weight loss). 

I think I'm a lost cause  Undecided
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There is a Group
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« Reply #4 on: 03 June 2011, 22:31:08 pm »
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There is a group which I have come across, do a search for Singapore Weight Watchers
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« Reply #5 on: 03 June 2011, 22:46:50 pm »
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My miracle diet came in the form of drops which I must admit I would not normally take a weight loss ‘gimmick’ but on a recent trip home I was amazed at the weight loss of 3 of my family members, between 15 – 36lb which they’ve kept off for more than 7 months. You basically take these drops as directed and follow the diet plan for 3 weeks, no exercise and best of all you really don’t feel hungry.  I lost 22lb in the 3 weeks and 4 months later it’s still off.
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« Reply #6 on: 03 June 2011, 23:09:33 pm »
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There is no easy way.  Surgery isn't the answer.

Some suggestions.

Exercise for 45 mins to 1 hour 5 days per week - very fast walk or slow jog -  swimming at your best  pace - some light weights training.  Incorporate exercise into everything you do...walk the escalators, park at the furthest point from where you need to be, walk to the shops, take the stairs in your condo. Get a personal trainer - or - Join a gym or - Start Yoga - or join a walking group. Make an effort to find a way to exercise that you can incorporate into your life and maintain it. Log your efforts for at least two weeks. Set a goal - find a 5km or 10km run coming up that you can participate in.

Also keep your calorie intake to 1100 +/- per day - not a diet - just keep tabs on what you are eating/drinking. Perhaps consult a nutritionist.  Keep a food diary for at least two weeks. Have a diet log free day per week.

A kick start can be find at some wonderful health farms in Thailand. Put aside a week a year to go to Thailand and maintain it if you need to, much less invasive than surgery. I have experience with one place and after a week of controlled fasting you can see amazing results - enough to get you back on track and give you the motivation to do all of the above.

If you don't make this part of your life now - it will not get any easier as you age.

BEST IF LUCK! Let us know how you go.



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« Reply #7 on: 03 June 2011, 23:21:13 pm »
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There is no easy way.  Surgery isn't the answer.

BEST IF LUCK! Let us know how you go.





I'm not advocating surgery, I was just saying that it is the only proven method of long term weight loss ...  Really, read the research!  Not the crap band, but the VSG and the DS!

I'll let you know how she'll go - she'll lose a few pounds and then she is 98% certain to regain what she lost and then some ...
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« Reply #8 on: 04 June 2011, 0:44:52 am »
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Some people get so daunted, when they don't see any difference initially that they give up. I would say for some people lipo isn't a bad idea - a quick fix and jumpstart, psychologically. Because a lot of this is psychological and mindset.

Once you see a difference, it's more motivation to want to keep at it.  After it's really watching what you eat - healthier, and keyword: in moderation.

As opposed to a larger body shape that never seems to go down, regardless of how much you exercise is thrown in, or how much food intake is cut. There is less or no motivation to keep going in this case, and the person might just reach the point they give up because nothing seems to make much real difference.

Another new fad that is taking on among many Asians is accupuncture dieting, which many are embracing blindly, without really thinking it out.
How it works is that the accupuncture suppresses the appetite but most people who do this treatment don't connect that they're also changing their meal plans along with the the 'instant fix' accupuncture. I believe the advocated meal plan with this method is soup, eggs and steamed chicken breast (no oil or salt) only. Once the accupuncture sessions stop, if these folk go back to their former eating habits ... they're back to square one.

I don't believe in severe dieting or deprivation. Often these only leave to cravings, and in some worse cases - bingeing. If you need that slice of cake ... go for it. Just keep that in mind, and cut down later by eating fruit instead of another larger dessert.
What is not ok is eating half the entire cake, because you went without for a whole month (and mentally the craving is just there building up)

Find some from exercise you enjoy. Don't do running or jogging just because 'you have to'.
Or make the exercise more pleasurable (favorite selection of music, shade of wall at some particular gym appeals more  Wink. gorgeous gym instructor  Wink ... whatever). The idea is not thinking it merely as some 'must-do tedious chore' but rather something to look forward to as part of your lifestyle.

Personally I hate swimming as a form of exercise because to me it's really monotonous, and there's no music involved. Any exercise/movement for me has to with music and rhythm involved - be this in the form of dance, aerobics, or yoga. Running can only be done with music, and even this activity is really more for thinking, or building mental training and discipline (than exercise) for me

Random tips:
- go easy on carbs and dressings (of any sort. gravy included)
- it's ok to snack on 6 light meals in the day. have that inverted triangle eating chart in your mind.
beats being super busy and frantic during the day, starving ..... and then finally sitting down to pamper yourself with some 6-course heavy dinner at 8pm to de-stress!
- try to keep any food intake or snacking light after 8pm. For the extremes on the accupuncture diet - they have made this time 6pm!
 - just go to bed when you feel that need to comfort yourself or de-stress with yummy food at night, and instead wake up earlier at 6pm to indulge those cravings!
- minimise storage of unhealthy tempting snacks (chips, ice-cream etc) so you have less choices to reach for at 11pm. Instead stock up on fruit yoghurt, nuts, seeds and dried fruit mixes that you can munch or eat with the yoghurt. Grain crackers are just as yummy as cookies. Harder to practise with kids and their food in the cup*** ... but worth a try.
- I have heard from one fan how Hatha Yoga (sweaty) has worked for her, and her very toned body is testimony. Of course she also backs this with great food selections (eg no sugar - substituting berries instead in her baking)


GOOD LUCK! You can do it.

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« Reply #9 on: 04 June 2011, 1:24:55 am »
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Its pretty simple really, eat half of what you eat now, learn to throw away food and eat more slowly so you feel when you are full,once full stop eating and drink lots of water - whenever you feel peckish between meals drink a glass of water.

also try to exercise regularly, especially in the evening.
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« Reply #10 on: 04 June 2011, 6:34:31 am »
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It's interesting. Trying to lose weight without exercising only makes people become a skinnier fat person. The key is actually to exercise properly and eat right. Try Body For Life. This involves no gimmicks just a proper routine that you must follow of eating and exercising...and you know what? It's tough but if you are overweight then it's really your choice to remain fat or do something about it. Lots of people think a slow 40 minute run every day or a 2kM swim will help you lose weight. It won't. It will keep the balance. 20 minutes done in the right way is enough.It is better to do exercise first thing on a morning before breakfast, then not eat for an hour after. Mix weights with aerobic exercise.Try it but you need to actually be committed. Many try and give up and remain overweight.
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« Reply #11 on: 04 June 2011, 7:22:08 am »
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Why is it that angmoh women have a tendency to be at your throat 24/7 but go all "woe is me" on you when it comes to the state of their overweight being?

Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and apply the same pro-active aggressive stance to your diet that you do to the rest of your lives.

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« Reply #12 on: 04 June 2011, 9:19:27 am »
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I have a friend who constantely struggles with her weight, we are the same age (40). What gets to me is her saying how lucky I am to be small and slim and that it is most likely my genetics that keep me in shape. All the women in my family are petite and she might have a point there but then I look at my habits and compare them with hers...

I have a car but walk every day, no matter where. She takes the bus or MRT for everything because the heat keeps her from moving around. When we meet for coffee, she will put more sugar in o cup than I use the entire week. Instead of buying some dark, grainy bread, she loves the white and soft pre sliced toast and covers it thickly with butter.

I could go on and on, the point is, in her mind she doesn't eat that much and why is she still not losing any weight? I understand it is different for everybody but take a close look at your eating habits.
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« Reply #13 on: 04 June 2011, 9:47:37 am »
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Why is it that angmoh women have a tendency to be at your throat 24/7 but go all "woe is me" on you when it comes to the state of their overweight being?

At your throat about what?  

You seem to be confused about expats.  This is an expat board, not an angmoh board - why do you assume that everyone here is an angmoh?  I'm not.
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« Reply #14 on: 04 June 2011, 15:38:49 pm »
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I have a friend who constantely struggles with her weight, we are the same age (40). What gets to me is her saying how lucky I am to be small and slim and that it is most likely my genetics that keep me in shape. All the women in my family are petite and she might have a point there but then I look at my habits and compare them with hers...

I have a car but walk every day, no matter where. She takes the bus or MRT for everything because the heat keeps her from moving around. When we meet for coffee, she will put more sugar in o cup than I use the entire week. Instead of buying some dark, grainy bread, she loves the white and soft pre sliced toast and covers it thickly with butter.

I could go on and on, the point is, in her mind she doesn't eat that much and why is she still not losing any weight? I understand it is different for everybody but take a close look at your eating habits.

That all may be true but what's usually happened with overweight people, is they've dieted on and off for years and now have an unhealthy relationship with food.  Food becomes a bit obsessional when you are trying to lose weight.  People then just think 'what the heck' and overeat or eat unhealthily because they're lost all concept of eating as a fuel.  I wonder if overweight people she really be focusing on the psychology behind their eating habits rather then their diets. I'm no expert - but come from a family of obese people, despite being slim myself.  I watch them do exactly what you describe.
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