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« Reply #90 on: 14 January 2012, 0:58:49 am » |
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If Indians are considered to have fake degrees, how come Indians are leading major MNCs everywhere from Citi, Pepsi, Reckitts, P&G, Standard Chartered, DBS, Unilever, HP. Indians are found in senior positions in all big fortune 500 companies because of their intelligence and hard work, coupled with a strong educational background. The young British grads do not know what is real competition. Ask an Indian from the top schools, they would tell you. Indians not only lead the corporate world but also the academic world. Deans of INSEAD, Kellogg, Wharton, Columbia and many more top ranked universities are/ have been INDIAN!!! Please open your eyes and see the REAL world.
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« Reply #90 on: 14 January 2012, 0:58:49 am » |
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« Reply #91 on: 14 January 2012, 4:22:06 am » |
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Have been told by locals that Indian manager tends to hire Indians. They cited Nokia, Citibanks and DBS as examples. Is this the norm in Singapore?
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« Reply #92 on: 14 January 2012, 10:49:33 am » |
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Have been told by locals that Indian manager tends to hire Indians. They cited Nokia, Citibanks and DBS as examples. Is this the norm in Singapore?
It has been noted/seen Indians have been favouring their own. MOM have been involved. They do it back home though according to region and caste too.
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« Reply #93 on: 15 January 2012, 20:11:20 pm » |
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Yes its true - its absolutely despicable behaviour, and it will be stopped.
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« Reply #94 on: 16 January 2012, 10:57:49 am » |
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It has been noted/seen Indians have been favouring their own. MOM have been involved.
They do it back home though according to region and caste too This is not just restricted to Indians,this is across other nationalities including locals and filipinos. A smart manager is some one who hires only based on the ability to do the job and there are many smart managers out there and they are universal as well and not restricted to any particular nationality.
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« Reply #95 on: 17 January 2012, 15:24:59 pm » |
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Surely, there are the good, the bad and the ugly from all over?
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« Reply #96 on: 19 January 2012, 16:08:46 pm » |
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It seems to me that Indians can be exceptional as individuals. Smart, hard working, etc. However, when it comes to working together for bigger purposes, they fail. They have few interantional companies, rather they are known for providing outsourcing service to Western companies. Also, s noted here, Indians often lead companies that Westerners created and built. The biggest indication, of course, is that their country is a big mess. I've come to this opinion over many years after dealing with many Indians, traveling to India, etc. If Indians are considered to have fake degrees, how come Indians are leading major MNCs everywhere from Citi, Pepsi, Reckitts, P&G, Standard Chartered, DBS, Unilever, HP. Indians are found in senior positions in all big fortune 500 companies because of their intelligence and hard work, coupled with a strong educational background. The young British grads do not know what is real competition. Ask an Indian from the top schools, they would tell you. Indians not only lead the corporate world but also the academic world. Deans of INSEAD, Kellogg, Wharton, Columbia and many more top ranked universities are/ have been INDIAN!!! Please open your eyes and see the REAL world.
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« Reply #97 on: 20 January 2012, 22:08:53 pm » |
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I'm not sure. Could it be because they are extremely political? Experts at backstabbing and stepping on others to climb to the top?
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« Reply #98 on: 21 January 2012, 0:48:43 am » |
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Not much is known about High Caste indians, and should be told, they work well as individuals, but fail epically as groups, thus the recent banking retrenchments.
A decent company and a good Hiring manager hires workers from all over the world with a common skill language or objective. No cliques allowed.
Very much like Google, look at their corporate culture, a eclectic mix of people from colorful cultures, It's a united nations in there.
unlike some banking instituitions. The hiring culture in Singapore needs improvements.
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« Reply #99 on: 21 January 2012, 1:04:52 am » |
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Im a CEO and here are my best hiring practises to avoid the citibank HR diaster that many hae come to associate here.
What does all this mean to you as a potential employer of Indians? I think the following questions are important while evaluating an Indian for employment: •Where were you born? – This question will enable you to find out what community the candidate belongs to. If he or she is not born in India, you will have to probe the origins of parents and the languages spoken at home. Indians brought up in other countries tend to be very different in their mannerisms from their native cousins; however, the basic community traits tend to remain the same. •What languages do you speak? – Most Indians speak three or more languages. Hindi is the national language of the country, English the common “bridging” language, and a mother tongue that will give you an indication of community. •What school did you go to? – In India, there are three kinds of schools, private schools that are expensive, government schools that are nearly free and “missionary” schools that are generally run by Christian or other religious missions. The three kinds of schools produce very different kinds of people. Private schools produce smart, selfish and communicative students. Government schools produce highly educated and often, creative, students with poor communication and social skills. Missionary school students tend to have good values and behavior, although they may lack academic excellence and creativity. •What caste do you belong to? – This is a tricky question. The best answer would be where the candidate is unaware of his or her caste. If a candidate does name a caste, it would probably indicate a mind that is affected by the caste system. There are many castes in India, the highest being the Brahmin (intellectual). Brahmins consider themselves superior to most other people, although they may not say so. Brahmins from south India, in particular, are unlikely to consider anyone, other than their own kind, to be their intellectual equals or superiors. The next caste is the Kshtriya, who are warriors. Kshtriyas tend to be honest, loyal and hard working, once you gain their trust. Below the Kshtriyas are a host of “lower” castes, all of whom, if they are still affected by this ancient system, will tend to be subservient in one way or the other. Finally, there are the lowest castes, the Untouchables, who are unlikely to reveal their caste. Incidentally, anyone who is not a Hindu is an Untouchable!
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« Reply #100 on: 21 January 2012, 1:08:39 am » |
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In India they are many different “We’s
The North of the country has been attacked by other countries for millennia and the people from there, predominantly Punjabis, are characterized by short term goals, corruption, cultural immaturity, and low education. They can be highly ambitious and materialistic and are capable of waiving all moral or ethical values to achieve their goals. They are practical and very hard working but lack imagination and creativity. They have little appreciation for the arts and have poor esthetics. They are mostly vegetarian and eat only chicken, if they do eat meat. Women have few rights in this region and are considered as good only for child rearing. Female infanticide is common and the ratio of males to females in the population can be a frightening 10:7 in some areas. They would be good at sales, engineering, telling lies, weaseling out of difficult situations, working long hours, and partying. They tend to get along well with the average American.
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The East of the country is extremely fertile, the Ganges river delta being the most fertile region on earth. This part of the country has not been attacked as often as the north, however, Kolkata (earlier called Calcutta) was the city from where the British ruled their empire. It is also the region from where Gandhi’s principles of “passive resistance” and “civil disobedience” destroyed the British Empire without bloodshed. The region is dominated by the Bengali people. The eastern people are similar to, and often look like, the people of the Far East. They are lazy and have low ambition. However, they are usually highly educated, talented in the arts and are sensitive. They can be very emotional and tend to run away from difficult situations. They eat everything and enjoy eating and drinking very much. Football and cricket are regional obsessions, although most prefer to watch and comment rather than participate. Women in this region are powerful, very intelligent and frequently more active than the men. Indeed, it was a Bengali woman that lowered the Union Jack in Bombay to end the British rule in India. This region has produced most of the Nobel Laureates, Oscar winners and Grammy awardees of India. They would be good at jobs involving creativity, communication, media and science. They make excellent teachers and get along easily with American intellectuals.
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« Reply #102 on: 21 January 2012, 1:14:30 am » |
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The people of western India fall into two categories. The upper west consisting of Gujaratis, Sindhis and Marwaris are very different from the Maharashtrians of the rest of the region. The former are astute business people and control most of India’s economy and the stock markets. They are excellent entrepreneurs, have few values other than those connected with money and are mostly street-wise. Many consider education and professions a waste of time. They make excellent con-men and scamsters and can talk their way into most jobs. They are strictly vegetarian and eat all manner of deep fried food. Many are obese. The women of this region are encouraged to stay at home, from where they control the family wealth. As employees, Gujaratis, Sindhis and Marwaris can be very hard working and diligent as long as it serves their interest to do so. They will walk out of a job into a better paying one without a second thought. People of the rest of the western region are mostly from the state of Maharashtra. They are among the brightest and most educated of all Indians. Maharashtrians value education and patriotism above most things. They are practical and often very creative. However, their love of the intellect can sometimes be obsessive leading to people who have excellent intentions but are not too good at getting things done. They are mostly vegetarian, although they eat fish and chicken irregularly. Women of this region are efficient, educated, liberal and extremely capable. The Indian film industry, the largest in the world, is located in Mumbai (erstwhile Bombay), in this region. They have also produced the world’s best cricketers. Maharashtrians make excellent employees – loyal, intelligent and hard working. They would make good communicators, programmers, engineers, scientists and could be good at most professions if motivated by altruistic values.
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« Reply #103 on: 21 January 2012, 1:21:31 am » |
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If you draw a horizontal line through the city of Mumbai, the region below that line would be called South India. It is a diverse region consisting of the states of Andhra, Karnataka, Kerala and Tamilnadu. Understanding or describing South India in a few paragraphs is not easy; however, it is from here that that the Indian IT revolution originated and one cannot understand India, particularly Hindu India without reference to this region. Academic excellence, mathematics, algorithmic thinking, idiosyncrasies and an all but indestructible set of cultural values characterize the people of the south. Add to this an almost incomprehensible English pronunciation, a dark complexion and a natural perm and you would have a reasonable picture of the south Indian. While they are, almost invariably, brilliant, south Indians can be deceptive, intolerant, dishonest and cruel. They will quietly perform technological and scientific miracles, as long as it serves their purpose to do so. They will dump you when they choose to, without a backward glance.
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« Reply #104 on: 21 January 2012, 2:48:49 am » |
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And most of the Indians that come to Singapore are from  ??
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