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« Reply #105 on: 21 January 2012, 9:26:06 am »
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The Singapore born Indians were mostly Tamils from south India. Recently with the floodgates opening there are more north Indians. Don't think the singaporean indians necessarily see eye to eye with the India Indians
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« Reply #105 on: 21 January 2012, 9:26:06 am »
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« Reply #106 on: 21 January 2012, 10:46:42 am »
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Singapore's Indians aren't all originate from Tamil Muslims, it's complex, there are large majority from Sri Lanka ,erasians, some from Punjab Sinkhs.
Pre-colonial Singapore was part of 'Indianized Kingdoms' like Srivijaya and the Majapahit, which formed part of a cultural region known as Greater India.[1]
It's safe to say most indians come from missionary schools and are much disciplined than the New Northern ones.

Similar to Chinese, 50% only are from Fujian (hokkien) who were mostly coolies but are gd businesssman, the other percentage come from Hakka, Guangdong, Hongkong, Peranakan, Taiwanese, KL...etc and are either lawyers doctors...etc...just as gd in business as hokkiens. It a colosial mutation of Chinese into SIngapore.

Go to chinatown, and you hear Cantonese speaking.
Go to Geylang, it's a hokkien.

That's the reason why mainland Chinese are unable to assimilate into singapore, it's a culture shock, they too yes...

Far too complex to generalise Singapore Indians, Chinese..etc.. just too complicated.

Too further complex it, there are also Malays as well.
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« Reply #107 on: 21 January 2012, 10:49:45 am »
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And when cross cultural marriage between Chinese + Malays you get a BABAs.

They can't speak chinese. Ah now you know.
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« Reply #108 on: 21 January 2012, 10:56:41 am »
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Members of this community in Melaka address themselves as "Nyonya Baba"  They were the elites of Singapore, more loyal to the British than to China. Most have lived for generations along the straits of Malacca and not all intermarried with the local Native Indonesians and Malays. They were usually traders, the middleman of the British and the Chinese, or the Chinese and Malays, or vice versa because they were mostly English educated. Because of this, they almost always had the ability to speak two or more languages. In later generations, some lost the ability to speak Chinese as they became assimilated to the Malay Peninsula's culture and started to speak Malay fluently as a first or second language.
 
Most Peranakans are of Hoklo (Hokkien) ancestry, although a sizable number are of Teochew or Cantonese descent. Originally, the Peranakan were mixed-race descendants, part Chinese, part Malay/Indonesian.

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« Reply #109 on: 21 January 2012, 11:11:34 am »
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How an MNC hires Indians, in particular, says alot about it's strategic direction of that time.

If it's Frontload Sales Side, Hedge fundish ,the profile would be to hire the scammy talkative The North predominantly Punjabis. Thus it fits the profile of  Citibank, Unilever and HP hiring such types during theis period. SOme of us know HP has mergedd with EDS, CItibank is trying to regain trust and Unilever is growing it's Branding.

Next the profile changes dramatically in BPO sector...Look at the profile of Indians in Backend Ops situated in Tampines,Changi...It's not northern indians anymore, most are from Chennai, bangalore...the DOing work types...as referred to as Southern Indians. Andhra, Karnataka, Kerala and Tamilnadu maybe chennai.

Yet another profile of indians are hired in construction sector...The Bangladeshies...THey have proven to be hardworking however when it comes to building bridges in India, they failed.

These several profiles of Indians hired by MNCs would give u clear direction in which the company wants to take.



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« Reply #110 on: 21 January 2012, 12:03:00 pm »
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Strategy of Barclays Bank in SG.Barclays is very late in the game, you see chennais are all there doing EJB things and sql sort...

as some of you know, they are at harbourfront maybe some at changi, cheaper rentals and cheaper backoffice staff. They are definately in process of beefing their IT processes and tweaking n bulking up their risk management & commodities area (Energy trading ...etc) , then later they will do the sell side and hire the talkative smiley punjabs to perform sell side.

How an MNC hires Indians, in particular, says alot about it's strategic direction of this time.

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« Reply #111 on: 21 January 2012, 12:14:08 pm »
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So lets talk about Indian consumption patterns. another area of interest.

What do they spend on ? If you think they are great credit spenders you're wrong. ABN amro credit card program was a failure.

Most of them invest in....Singapore Shares....and are very conservative in their portfolios, they choose companies such such as hyflux, comfortdelgro, GLP,Sabana reits. They are savers this profile , mainly in IT sector engineering.

The northern indian ones in partcular are the ones who purchase cars in singapore, not the rank and file type IT indians.

A typicaly working class IT indian, would not think or dare to purchase a car in singapore because they have strong value system, unless the punjab northern indians.
 
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« Reply #112 on: 21 January 2012, 12:36:33 pm »
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This is what makes SIngapore so attractive place to be, It''s like living in ...The matrix...an alternate reality.

One moment in RWS / marina bay sands amongst strangers from all over the world a melting pot, as if you're in an international city and the next moment , you can just simply drive back home, and switch back to reality.

You have two choices, take either the BLue or red pill, and its still ok.
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« Reply #113 on: 22 January 2012, 16:41:34 pm »
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There's an article on today's news about the appalling standards of math and english among indian students.  Singapore politicians take note.
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« Reply #114 on: 25 January 2012, 1:59:29 am »
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Singapore is such an interesting country with a population that is truly global. Looking forward to moving to Singapore in the near future.
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« Reply #115 on: 25 January 2012, 19:53:34 pm »
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all that caste and regional nonsense - do not hire Indians in large numbers
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« Reply #116 on: 26 January 2012, 1:17:17 am »
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Singapore would be dull without Indians.
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« Reply #117 on: 26 January 2012, 18:27:26 pm »
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Singapore would be dull without Indians.

with Indians - it is when they start to favour their own or show their bad manners it is a problem.

They can not wait in a queue, interrupt servers while others are being served etc. I am not talking about the low level labourers here either - people who are supposed to be educated.

Employ them but do not employ too many in one department and do not let them hold sway over the employment process - it has been shown the problems your company can face
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« Reply #118 on: 24 February 2012, 10:24:41 am »
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But the British education system IS better! They do things properly and are regulated vigorously, unlike the south east asian nations (except Singapore) who could potentially take briberies and I guarantee that nearly ALL plagiarised their work. lol dont get me started on India! They churn out hundred of thousands of unregulated fake graduates each year! (no offence).

Yes they are cheaper, but they may lack the skills/knowledge base that may well cost the company thousands of dollars a year because of the lost in competitiveness. I guess no one thought of that one, because those in charge now are fake graduates who doesnt know any better!

Hey british gentleman,

I think you live in the past. Your email shows the reason for that what you are complaining about.

British eductaion system is better!?? Who says that? The british and american ranking agencies? Sorry, but if a job candidate would come to me with that arrogant opinion how could I integrate him in my team of filipinos, indians and so on....

Additional: Which languages do you speak? I guess just English...

So please open your eyes. We live in 2012. The british empire is gone.

Best regards from the heart of Europe
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