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what the mush?!
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« Reply #30 on: 03 October 2011, 18:43:02 pm »
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For the above recipe, you have omitted the following:
Onions,
Mushrooms,
Garlic,
Bay Leaves
Oregano,
Thyme,
Black Pepper,
Basil,
Balsamic Vinegar.

The difference in taste is indescribable and can only be likened watching a delicate Russian ballerina, rather than an over weight hoofer with flat feet.  Grin


MUSHROOM?!  Dear god, no.  THAT is an abomination.
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« Reply #30 on: 03 October 2011, 18:43:02 pm »
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« Reply #31 on: 03 October 2011, 19:04:17 pm »
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For the above recipe, you have omitted the following:
Onions,
Mushrooms,
Garlic,
Bay Leaves
Oregano,
Thyme,
Black Pepper,
Basil,
Balsamic Vinegar.

The difference in taste is indescribable and can only be likened watching a delicate Russian ballerina, rather than an over weight hoofer with flat feet.  Grin


MUSHROOM?!  Dear god, no.  THAT is an abomination.

Yes, button mushrooms.
I might chuck in a tin of baked beans too, to give it body.  Wink
I have about twelve varieties of beans all in a large jar I use in many meals to give body. Great food and cheap too.
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How horrible
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« Reply #32 on: 03 October 2011, 19:52:47 pm »
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We are meat eaters but eat mostly chicken/pork as beef is terribly expensive. I have resorted to always buying the frozen minced beef as it is so much cheaper than fresh. Gone are the days of a simple meal like spag bol being a cheap option.

Funny you should mention this.

The sauce for that abomination you Brits call "spag bol" is a bastardization of ragu alla Bolognese. While this is a beef sauce, and beef here can be expensive, this is a perfect example of how to make something familiar, very tasty, and economical.

I made a large batch this weekend, and my total product cost was less than $40. Made right, this is a slow simmered sauce that should be cooked for 3~5 hours. That means using tough, flavorful, and cheap cuts of beef.

I went to a beef seller in a wet market (happened to be Chinatown Complex, but it could be anywhere) and picked out 2kg of beef rump, which was $12/kg. I had them add 500g of beef fat, then grind all of it for me. They didn't charge me for the fat, so the whole 2.5kg of "mince" was $24. For that amount of meat, I used 1/2 bottle of cheap red wine to deglaze the pot (about $7.00) added some canned crushed tomatoes (about $3.00, unless you foolishly insist on a can that says "Waitrose" on it) and about 1/2 litre of milk ($1.50). The carrots, celery and onion for the battuto were probably another $2.00. The sauce cooked for about 5 hours, and afterwards I had 9 500ml containers of sauce to freeze. One of these is typically enough for a meal, so my "per-meal" cost for the sauce is about $4.50.





Good Grief, I just feel like vomiting. What a disgusting recipe. Shocked
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« Reply #33 on: 03 October 2011, 21:53:30 pm »
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We are meat eaters but eat mostly chicken/pork as beef is terribly expensive. I have resorted to always buying the frozen minced beef as it is so much cheaper than fresh. Gone are the days of a simple meal like spag bol being a cheap option.

Funny you should mention this.

The sauce for that abomination you Brits call "spag bol" is a bastardization of ragu alla Bolognese. While this is a beef sauce, and beef here can be expensive, this is a perfect example of how to make something familiar, very tasty, and economical.

I made a large batch this weekend, and my total product cost was less than $40. Made right, this is a slow simmered sauce that should be cooked for 3~5 hours. That means using tough, flavorful, and cheap cuts of beef.

I went to a beef seller in a wet market (happened to be Chinatown Complex, but it could be anywhere) and picked out 2kg of beef rump, which was $12/kg. I had them add 500g of beef fat, then grind all of it for me. They didn't charge me for the fat, so the whole 2.5kg of "mince" was $24. For that amount of meat, I used 1/2 bottle of cheap red wine to deglaze the pot (about $7.00) added some canned crushed tomatoes (about $3.00, unless you foolishly insist on a can that says "Waitrose" on it) and about 1/2 litre of milk ($1.50). The carrots, celery and onion for the battuto were probably another $2.00. The sauce cooked for about 5 hours, and afterwards I had 9 500ml containers of sauce to freeze. One of these is typically enough for a meal, so my "per-meal" cost for the sauce is about $4.50.





Good Grief, I just feel like vomiting. What a disgusting recipe. Shocked

Carrots, celery, milk, 25% fat and no seasoning?   Ugh, that really does sound disgusting!
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« Reply #34 on: 04 October 2011, 8:47:05 am »
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Carrots, celery, milk, 25% fat and no seasoning?   Ugh, that really does sound disgusting!

After cooking for one hour it is disgusting. After two it's just barely edible. But after four~five hours it's very, very good. And that's the point. To make this properly takes time, and that's the one ingredient that doesn't cost any money. Spag bol is a slapdash concoction that tries to make a slow cooked dish into a quick one (and the Brits aren't alone here. Kraft spaghetti was America's answer to spag bol in the 60's). If you're willing to take the time, you can make something much better for less money.

Purists, btw, insist that there be nothing in the sauce but fat to cook the battuto (oil, lard, butter), the battuto itself, beef, pork and/or pancetta, wine (some don't even want this), and water or stock. But almost everyone adds something tomatoey and a bit of milk. In my case, I used the rendered beef fat to cook the battuto, and left out any pork because I have friends who don't eat it.

As for the fat content - First, you need to work on your math skills. It's 20%, not 25. Second, very lean ground beef tastes like crap, and most people end up adding in some other form of fat to make up for the dryness. Personally, I prefer to have the natural flavor of beef fat in the sauce, but you can change it anyway you want. The nice thing about grinding the meat at the time you buy it is that you choose what goes into it. If you think completely lean beef is healthier, you can have that. That said, 20~30 years ago 15-20% was the norm for ground beef, and good restaurants today use 20% for burgers.

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« Reply #35 on: 06 October 2011, 18:55:29 pm »
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We are a family of 6 plus helper & we spend around 1-1.5k a month on groceries (including cleaning products, diapers, toiletries etc but excluding alcohol) so yours sounds about right.  Food is more expensive everywhere these days, we've resorted to making a lot of more expensive stuff from scratch, like pasta, cake/biscuits as mixes here are expensive.
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