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Simon007
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« on: 25 November 2011, 19:25:34 pm »
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I will be moving to Singapore with my child at the beginning of April 2012.
I was wondering what were the best schools for her to attend in district 5 & 10.
She will be 8 years old.
I would like to know the best international schools, plus the free schools.

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« Reply #1 on: 26 November 2011, 1:53:18 am »
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What is your budget? Private schools range from 20k - 30k a year.  Google schools in Singapore and email them to find out which ones have spaces.  The most popular schools will be full with waiting lists years long.
Free (local schools) are also often full and you may only find a place at unpopular schools. Local schools also have class sizes of 30-40.  You need to apply now to start the Singaporean school year in January. You will have a hard time finding a place in April.
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« Reply #2 on: 26 November 2011, 22:37:50 pm »
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Local schools aren't free - in fact I read that they were putting their fees up for foreigners (not sure if that has happened yet).  From what I read, it could cost up to $6K per year for a foreigner to attend local school.

There's a publication called the International Schools guide (or some such name) - I'm not sure where you get it from - have an internet search and you may find it, it should help you if they're still publishing it.

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« Reply #3 on: 05 December 2011, 19:05:33 pm »
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What are the best Local schools to attend in district 10 and 5 ?
Do many UK children attend the local schools?
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« Reply #4 on: 05 December 2011, 19:50:32 pm »
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they don't...and for many good reasons
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« Reply #5 on: 05 December 2011, 20:45:35 pm »
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and they are?
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« Reply #6 on: 06 December 2011, 7:15:20 am »
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Language, culture, behavioural differences, teaching differences, lack of original thought - Singaporeans tend to be very "in the box" with little or no imagination/original thought.

Singaporeans tend to be nice, decent people - more so than most of us expats - but at the same time there's something missing, that spark of creativity, the originality, the desire to do things differently.
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« Reply #7 on: 06 December 2011, 8:21:30 am »
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Our children attended local schools for two of the primary years and the education was simply excellent. They returned home with a good grounding in science and were at least 18 months ahead in math. The study discipline they picked up was great as well.

They are now attending one of the top private schools in Canada.

Keep in mind the following as well:

1) Raffles has been cited by the WSJ as the world's top prep school for Ivy League
2) Anglo-Chinese has absolutely dominated results from the the (highly creative) IB program
3) 1000s of Singaporean students attend Ivy and Oxbridge, and do very well

Some expats like to disparage local schools but they tend to disparage everything about Singapore. The education is very good by any standard.
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« Reply #8 on: 06 December 2011, 8:27:38 am »
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Our children attended local schools for two of the primary years and the education was simply excellent. They returned home with a good grounding in science and were at least 18 months ahead in math. The study discipline they picked up was great as well.

They are now attending one of the top private schools in Canada.

Keep in mind the following as well:

1) Raffles has been cited by the WSJ as the world's top prep school for Ivy League
2) Anglo-Chinese has absolutely dominated results from the the (highly creative) IB program
3) 1000s of Singaporean students attend Ivy and Oxbridge, and do very well

Some expats like to disparage local schools but they tend to disparage everything about Singapore. The education is very good by any standard.

You're telling Simon he's going to get his kid into one of these prestigious schools?   He'll be lucky if he gets her in a crappy neighbourhood school in which no self respecting Singapore professional would put their golden children  - him not being PR and all and not arriving until April ...   I do wish people would be truthful when trying to talk up Singapore !

Simon - it really depends how important your daughter's education is - S$20k will get her a reasonably good international education - the alternative is the lowest of the low Singapore school.
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« Reply #9 on: 06 December 2011, 8:29:12 am »
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The education system may be very good in the top Singapore schools that you have mentioned but unless you are a citizen or long standing PR your chances of getting a place are zero.  Even with PR the schools available to expats are extremely limited and not in the top tier by a long shot.

It is all very well for those expats lucky enough to get their kids into a good local school to disparage those of us who send our kids to international schools but for many of us there is little or no choice.
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« Reply #10 on: 06 December 2011, 8:35:01 am »
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Our children attended local schools for two of the primary years and the education was simply excellent. They returned home with a good grounding in science and were at least 18 months ahead in math. The study discipline they picked up was great as well.

They are now attending one of the top private schools in Canada.

Keep in mind the following as well:

1) Raffles has been cited by the WSJ as the world's top prep school for Ivy League
2) Anglo-Chinese has absolutely dominated results from the the (highly creative) IB program
3) 1000s of Singaporean students attend Ivy and Oxbridge, and do very well

Some expats like to disparage local schools but they tend to disparage everything about Singapore. The education is very good by any standard.

what are this guy's chances of getting his kids off the boat and straight into one of these schools?
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« Reply #11 on: 06 December 2011, 17:22:05 pm »
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Our children attended local schools for two of the primary years and the education was simply excellent. They returned home with a good grounding in science and were at least 18 months ahead in math. The study discipline they picked up was great as well.

They are now attending one of the top private schools in Canada.

Keep in mind the following as well:

1) Raffles has been cited by the WSJ as the world's top prep school for Ivy League
2) Anglo-Chinese has absolutely dominated results from the the (highly creative) IB program
3) 1000s of Singaporean students attend Ivy and Oxbridge, and do very well

Some expats like to disparage local schools but they tend to disparage everything about Singapore. The education is very good by any standard.

what are this guy's chances of getting his kids off the boat and straight into one of these schools?

1 - Raffles takes the 'best of the best" from Singapore schools. (The WSJ rating was in 2004, by the way.)  Yes, it has excellent results but it isn't representative of the general public school here.  And, as stated, the population includes very few westerners.  Trotting out Raffles and Hwa Chong (where Mandarin proficiency is mandatory) is useless as it is not relevant to the OP's question.
2 - Won't argue the basic point but your descriptor of IB as "highly creative" is arguable.  It has become the standard in international schools so it hardly stands out anymore. 
3 - Thousands attend?  Hundreds, maybe.  But just another exagerration.

If you plan to remain in Singapore for most of your child's K-12 education, you are committed to after school tuition every day, and you want him/her to learn Mandarin then consider a local school.  Otherwise, there are dozens of international schools to choose from and most offer the (not highly creative) IB program.  Some have IB in all grades though most only offer the IB diploma program the last two years of high school.
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« Reply #12 on: 07 December 2011, 20:54:26 pm »
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You're telling Simon he's going to get his kid into one of these prestigious schools? 

If he is planning on sending his children to a local primary school, and if they proceed to take the PSLE, their chances of getting into ACS or Raffles are the same as any other Singaporean.

There are many students from the "lowest of the low Singapore schools" who do well in the PSLE (without tuition every day) and proceed to ACS/Raffles so I wouldn't be so quick to say that they are crappy. While it might be through that "no self respecting Singapore professional would put their golden children" in these schools, I wouldn't want to send my kids to the supposedly top primary schools because they place far too much emphasis on academics at the expense of providing a well-rounded education.
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« Reply #13 on: 07 December 2011, 20:55:40 pm »
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My bad - "true" not "through"
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« Reply #14 on: 07 December 2011, 22:34:02 pm »
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You're telling Simon he's going to get his kid into one of these prestigious schools? 

If he is planning on sending his children to a local primary school, and if they proceed to take the PSLE, their chances of getting into ACS or Raffles are the same as any other Singaporean.



He is NOT Singaporean!!!!   These schools are vastly oversubscribed by citizens and PR's alike - as are the good neighbourhood schools.   The stark truth is that as an EXPAT, his daughter will only get into schools that Singaporeans and PR's don't want their children going to.   It is what it is, and Simon needs to base his choices and decisions on the truth not the stuff that you and Scorn (if you are not the same person) are spouting.
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