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justmeor
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« on: 08 December 2011, 22:11:48 pm »
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Hi - my 7 year old has changed schools & finding it really hard to make some good friends.Is upset  and says she does not have anyone to play with during lunch,break etc..
She is not exactly shy but looks like girls of the age have their little groups and it is hard to break in - any tips from you seasoned moms out there?
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« Reply #1 on: 09 December 2011, 7:35:18 am »
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Organise playdates at your place with some of the girls...
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Which school?
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« Reply #2 on: 09 December 2011, 13:11:03 pm »
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I think schools reflect the dominant national culture of the students.  I'd guess that your daughter has just started at TTS.  Right?
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« Reply #3 on: 09 December 2011, 14:35:10 pm »
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I think schools reflect the dominant national culture of the students.  I'd guess that your daughter has just started at TTS.  Right?

why do you guess that?
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« Reply #4 on: 09 December 2011, 21:59:03 pm »
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I think schools reflect the dominant national culture of the students.  I'd guess that your daughter has just started at TTS.  Right?

why do you guess that?

Because TTS is full of arrogant, mean spirited little monsters just like their moms are.
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« Reply #5 on: 10 December 2011, 10:51:18 am »
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this starts even in preschool. even as little kids observe and see difference in how they boys play and how the girls bond. watch how they sit together or hold hands at circle time. gets worse as they grow older. boys don't really care.


a preschool teacher once told me boys were way easier to spot as bullies because they're way more physical. girls often have more complex insidious emotional type bullying.

girls in general are just more cliquey. once their little groups/preferences have been formed, it's harder to join in midway.

playdates may help (make sure you it's not too many or else you may have a situation where maybe 3 play together, and your daughter just feels left out anyway).

a one to one, with different playmates daily may work. try also to have something special or fun as a highlight.
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« Reply #6 on: 10 December 2011, 13:28:58 pm »
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Hi - my 7 year old has changed schools & finding it really hard to make some good friends.Is upset  and says she does not have anyone to play with during lunch,break etc..
She is not exactly shy but looks like girls of the age have their little groups and it is hard to break in - any tips from you seasoned moms out there?

Have you talked to the teacher about this? Sometimes what children tell their parents is not a good reflection of what is happening, but also sometimes teachers need to be told as they aren't always aware of underlying issues that surface in the playground... The teacher could keep an eye out, especially if there is nastiness going on that needs to be nipped in the bud - or might be able to put your mind at ease.

My own daughter is 7 and having a couple of really good buddies makes a world of difference to self esteem, I know. Perhaps encourage a friendship with a couple of girls that she is getting on OK with and go from there. Definitely have a talk with the teacher though.
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« Reply #7 on: 10 December 2011, 18:35:53 pm »
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As a PP recommended, play dates are the way to go. Ask your child about their classmates and see if there is anyone she would like to invite to do something outside of school hours - play at your home, visit your club, go to the cinema, etc. You'll get to meet and spend time with them and see how things go. Attend all school related events and try to meet other parents in the class. Do you volunteer at the school for anything? Library? Reading? PTA? How about school pick ups, at the end of the day? If you get there early you may meet other parents there. Maybe even hang around for a while at the school while the kids play with each other. Failing that, does your child take part in any activities outside of the school : sports, dancing, music? She may meet friends that way. There is life outside of school too. This may help while it is taking a while to break the ice at school.
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« Reply #8 on: 11 December 2011, 11:39:32 am »
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thanks a lot for all replies..
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« Reply #9 on: 11 December 2011, 17:45:13 pm »
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a preschool teacher once told me boys were way easier to spot as bullies because they're way more physical. girls often have more complex insidious emotional type bullying.

girls in general are just more cliquey. once their little groups/preferences have been formed, it's harder to join in midway.

I think the OP's daughter is having trouble making friends, not necessarily being bullied. 

But you're right, girls are more cliquey in general and this could be why her daughter isn't in a group with friends yet.  However some kids do tend to push themselves and some sit there and wait to be asked - if she's not the pushy type, this could be why she is finding it hard to make friends.

It could be age too.  My youngest was OK making friends up until about 6 or 7 years of age and then distanced herself a bit from people - I think she got tired of having friends who left Singapore all the time and kind of gave up on it.  Nowadays she's in secondary school and is still a bit of a loner - I think when she does eventually make a good friend, she will be a loyal friend, she just hasn't found the right person yet.
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« Reply #10 on: 10 January 2012, 9:48:38 am »
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a preschool teacher once told me boys were way easier to spot as bullies because they're way more physical. girls often have more complex insidious emotional type bullying.

girls in general are just more cliquey. once their little groups/preferences have been formed, it's harder to join in midway.

I think the OP's daughter is having trouble making friends, not necessarily being bullied. 

But you're right, girls are more cliquey in general and this could be why her daughter isn't in a group with friends yet.  However some kids do tend to push themselves and some sit there and wait to be asked - if she's not the pushy type, this could be why she is finding it hard to make friends.

It could be age too.  My youngest was OK making friends up until about 6 or 7 years of age and then distanced herself a bit from people - I think she got tired of having friends who left Singapore all the time and kind of gave up on it.  Nowadays she's in secondary school and is still a bit of a loner - I think when she does eventually make a good friend, she will be a loyal friend, she just hasn't found the right person yet.

This is a normal phenomenon in all international school :- after making a pact with fellow kids would be disappointed to hear they will be leaving soon in a month's time. The consistency is not there and hence, the child has given up the idea of making friends. Once it has set in, the child became independent and it will transcend into teenage. He/she would just be by him/herself and shut out from the world. This is sad.

Does this happen in local school?
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« Reply #11 on: 06 February 2012, 6:49:48 am »
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 I think when she does eventually make a good friend, she will be a loyal friend, she just hasn't found the right person yet.
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I am still looking for that "friend" and I am 44 years old!
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« Reply #12 on: 07 February 2012, 1:27:06 am »
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I think when she does eventually make a good friend, she will be a loyal friend, she just hasn't found the right person yet.

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I am still looking for that "friend" and I am 44 years old!

There are some of us who define 'friend' differently from others.
There're party people who socialise very easily, bump into at least 10 people they're familiar with on the street. Everyone they meet is 'a friend'. Nevermind how shallow or deep.

Some folk also wheel and deal really easy. It's how some people choose to play the friends game.

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The consistency is not there and hence, the child has given up the idea of making friends. Once it has set in, the child became independent and it will transcend into teenage. He/she would just be by him/herself and shut out from the world. This is sad.
I agree. It's like a dance you have to learn the moves to early in life to enjoy it. If one figures out the dance steps later, some cynicism creeps in with growing up as well.

But while that's sad, that child also learns independence and self-reliance. One can also be too trusting and be taken on a ride by so-called friends.



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« Reply #13 on: 07 February 2012, 8:56:03 am »
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I think schools reflect the dominant national culture of the students.  I'd guess that your daughter has just started at TTS.  Right?

why do you guess that?

Because TTS is full of arrogant, mean spirited little monsters just like their moms are.

you're one of them
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« Reply #14 on: 08 February 2012, 8:33:38 am »
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Think you'll find a small contingent of arrogant fools in every school.
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