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Posted on: 02 March 2012, 18:41:55 PM
Posted by: sorrybuddy
Here is the situation.

1) My parents came to Singapore and gained PR status and applied one for me too.
2) My parents renounced their PR, along with mine and left in 2002 to emigrate to Canada. I was 13 years old.
3) Since then, we moved to the UK and gained british nationality.
4) I recently got a job offer from a french company in Singapore, who are applying for my Employment Pass, which will take up to 2 months. I am now 23 years old.

Will there be any employment pass issues in returning ex-PRs who did not serve NS (as my parents renounced my PR status when I was at a young age)?


Since you asked 3 times, here is your 3rd reply


Yes, the issue is it will probably be denied.  Unless your salary is enough to qualify you for a P1 Employment Pass *and* it is a highly niche role, I would bet a paycheck you get rejected.

Your family is very obviously taking advantage of every system they can, and leaving as soon as they can for greener pastures.  MOM and ICA work together to try and keep such types out, and they're quite good at catching them.  

Also, based on your family's behaviour, I'll make the guess there is a very good chance you're Indian.  Indians are over the racial quota, and the gov is trying to fix that quota.  You'd have a hard time without everything else against you.
Posted on: 02 March 2012, 16:46:27 PM
Posted by: bjsabug89
 Here is the situation.

1) My parents came to Singapore and gained PR status and applied one for me too.
2) My parents renounced their PR, along with mine and left in 2002 to emigrate to Canada. I was 13 years old.
3) Since then, we moved to the UK and gained british nationality.
4) I recently got a job offer from a french company in Singapore, who are applying for my Employment Pass, which will take up to 2 months. I am now 23 years old.

Will there be any employment pass issues in returning ex-PRs who did not serve NS (as my parents renounced my PR status when I was at a young age)?
Posted on: 02 June 2008, 22:52:41 PM
Posted by: just curious
I do understand that the govt has to be fair to the rest of the singaporean but Im curious whether did the sg govt consider about these factors while thinking about the NS policies

1. there are those who had made a "mistake" to have renounced their PR are the loyal ones as with families in sg, they are the ones who will stand up to protect the nation and their families here.
Comparing to those foreginers who get PR easily but may not be loyal to fight for singapore, they would still fight for the country where they come for.

2. losing many talents who may be able to contribute to the nation's economy.

3. tearing families apart suddenly (as these impact happened in 2006, those who renounced pr 10years old were "slapped" on the face suddenly, losing their jobs- to say that there are those who has already got sg wife, children and old parents in sg)

Im just thinking how did the govt evaluate these as a whole.
Could they try to think for the poor families being torn apart out of a sudden?


Posted on: 06 January 2007, 21:08:00 PM
Posted by: PRgal
On the original question of ability to renounce and come back to work:

I am 32 years old, 2nd generation PR, but not an issue because am female.

Two of my classmates renounced their PR-ship to get out of army after our A levels. (they were 2nd gen too) Both are graduates from good colleges but were not granted employment permits when they tried to come back. Social visit passes - ok .

Posted on: 05 January 2007, 7:29:00 AM
Posted by: manut
I have a friend who left Singapore 8 years ago when his son who is a S'pore citizen was 3 years old.  His son has no intention of keeping his S'pore citizenship as the family is well settled overseas.

Will he be able to renounce his S'pore citizenship and not be liable for any penalties when visiting S'pore as a tourist down the road?

What are the conditions and implications of renounicing a S'pore citizenship?

Posted on: 21 July 2006, 18:16:00 PM
Posted by: cheesecake
mudcake: definitely not that far into the future.1 yr -2 yrs max.
Posted on: 21 July 2006, 13:27:00 PM
Posted by: mudcake
dear cheesecake, EP is granted when a job offer is already secured. Question is are you certain that the current high demand for accountants in sing be there in say 10 years time when you may want to come back here ? No job offer, no EP. My suggestion for what it's worth is that you just keep quiet and enjoy having the best of what both countries have to offer.
Posted on: 21 July 2006, 6:34:00 AM
Posted by: cheesy
cheesecake, don't be silly. the sing govt won't know you're also an aus citizen if you tell them so why rock the boat ?
Posted on: 20 July 2006, 23:14:00 PM
Posted by: cheesecake
hi all,
i'm thinking of giving up my sg citizenship as i also have aus passport. i have to go back to aus after having given up my sg passport. Will giving up my citizenship hinder my chances of obtaining EP for work in singapore? I'm currently employed in singapore in a large accounting firm, so i guess i'm adequately skilled.
Are chances impossible as someone mentioned? oh i'm female so there's no NS issue.
Thanks very much!
Posted on: 17 July 2006, 22:26:00 PM
Posted by: loosersic
to quote rocky horror 'in just 7 days I can make you a man'.

I have two daughters.

now if I was in Israel I would worry. the young girlies strut about on their NS with their Uzis carried next to their handbags in the malls.

not a problem here. only for boys.

funny isn't it.

Posted on: 12 July 2006, 11:07:00 AM
Posted by: Make lunch, not war
Done my military service in my home country and even though I did quite well, I strongly disagree with the guys here who claim that NS makes men out of boys. I think it's a massive waste of time and a general dumbening exercise. Guys should have a choice, especially they shouldn't be made to serve an endless 2.5 year tour in a country they are really not associated to.
Posted on: 12 July 2006, 9:53:00 AM
Posted by: sundaymorningstaple
Sure wish I knew why people with such so-called high levels of intelligence (in order to get EP's & PR's) don't have the common sense to go to the relevant government websites to read up or even contact the relevant agencies "PRIOR" to taking up PR to find out the liabilities of taking up PR on them or children. Somehow this flagrant show of stupidity just boggles the mind. I am not sure this is the kind of people the government needs here at all. Seems they are only taking up PR so they don't have to leave after losing their jobs when their employers find out that they aren't half as smart at they thought either.

I know Singapore needs to freshen up the gene pool but...........  

Posted on: 12 July 2006, 9:34:00 AM
Posted by: expatman
Caireann,

what do you mean ?

are you not able to  work (get a ep / wp ) here ?

did they reject you PR application outright ?

Have you appeal ?

Have they given you any reason ?

Anyone out there did get manage to get a new  PR after renouncing?


Posted on: 12 July 2006, 9:19:00 AM
Posted by: Caireann
Dont renounce,
it is a big mistake,
Later you will have problems getting the PR back if required.
I know that from own experience.
Posted on: 12 July 2006, 1:52:00 AM
Posted by: New Question
Hi,
My wife and i are 1st gen PRs. No kids yet.

Just wanted to know, if my wife gave birth in singapore would that automatically make my kid a 2nd gen PR/ Singapore citizen or do i have to apply seperately for it.

If i don't want the PR should i go back to my country and apply for long term social visit pass or can it be done from singapore itself?

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